Shoulder exercises

[StevenScoular]

For shoulders at the moment I am doing Barbell Military Press and the other exercise I do is where I hold a plate in each hand and raise them to shoulder level (what do you call that? - Plate lateral raises?)

Can you recommend any other shoulder exercises I can do? Is the second exercise I described above a waste of time?

Cheers.

[jamwithtupac]

I dont do much for shoulders

Behind neck smith machine press to top set of 6 reps strict form
and db side raises 10 rep sets, heavy as possible

or another day

db presses to top set of 6-10 reps heavy as possible deep reps
behind neck barbell press for 8-10 reps (hard to take these heavy for me after db work)
db side raises

plates raises are fine too

[Lloyd]

Steve come and have a word. I never do anything behind the neck especially press or pulldown as I like my rotator cuffs to much to want to screw them up.

[StevenScoular]

Ok thanks both of you. I found a really useful website www.exrx.net

[cuntos]

Yeah that website is good. I've used it before for trying to explain exercises to people on the net (where a practical demonstration is impossible).

[Hellspawn]

pay just as much attention to the rear delts as you do the rest of the shoulder it keeps the joint stabalised !

[jamwithtupac]

Steve come and have a word. I never do anything behind the neck especially press or pulldown as I like my rotator cuffs to much to want to screw them up.

Yeah thats why you take it higher reps, ed coan shoulder work was behind the neck presses, and yeah I know its more risky doing it, but if its controlled you should be ok. I also didnt do behind the neck work because of fear for injury, but I havent got injured on it yet,

I dont do behind the necks everyweek, all the time too

[StevenScoular]

pay just as much attention to the rear delts as you do the rest of the shoulder it keeps the joint stabalised !

Good point.

I train shoulders and core at home so I have a barbell and plates only.


Done the following today with a plate gripped in each hand instead of dumbells, is that sufficient for rear delts?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidPosterior/DBSeatedRearLateralRaise.html

[Hellspawn]

Good point.

I train shoulders and core at home so I have a barbell and plates only.


Done the following today with a plate gripped in each hand instead of dumbells, is that sufficient for rear delts?
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidPosterior/DBSeatedRearLateralRaise.html

No its not Steven you need to hit them harder ! i gave up with normal bent over laterals when it was aparent i was still using the same dumbells i was using when i started ! which is obviously a bit of a waste of time .
i use the same method of single arm supported raises Svend Karlsen uses which gives a greater range of movement and far more overload and the weight shows increases which is a lot more encouraging for the time and effort spent doing them ;)
rowing movements, facepulls etc think things up for yourself as long as you feel it in the right place and the weights are increasing on a regular basis.

[welshchunk]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?

[Dave B]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?

Try standing overhead press

[Hellspawn]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?

try taking 2 seconds to lift the weight and 4 seconds to lower it i doubt if you will be doing 20 reps then :)

[Funky_monkey]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?

Do them with one arm at a time????
Start to put platesand/or dumbells in the machine???

[MattGriff]

pay just as much attention to the rear delts as you do the rest of the shoulder it keeps the joint stabalised !

Thats not what the rear delt does Al,thats what the rotator cuffs do ;)

[Hellspawn]

Thats not what the rear delt does Al,thats what the rotator cuffs do ;)

your cuffs is all sticky so i hear :)

[Lloyd]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?

Get a bit of kit like Bulldog that allows you to add free weights to the stack or just use fee weights anyway.

[1369phil]

i use the same method of single arm supported raises Svend Karlsen uses which gives a greater range of movement and far more overload and the weight shows increases which is a lot more encouraging for the time and effort spent doing them ;)


Al, any better description of these - I'm getting sore (itchy and pulled) shoulder blades (between the blades) from an increase in benching - I'm interested to try anything !

[Hellspawn]

Al, any better description of these - I'm getting sore (itchy and pulled) shoulder blades (between the blades) from an increase in benching - I'm interested to try anything !

its just a single arm supported version of bent over raises .
normaly done resting on the pad of a preacher bench (resting or rather supporting yourself with arm not being used you can rest your head on the arm) then from a bent over 90 degree angle move the dumbell so it crosses over your chest giving a maximum stretch then bring it in an arc upwards to maximum contraction hold possition for a second and slowly return to start possition , when fatigued you can swing it a bit to get a rep or two extra out.

[MattGriff]

how do people manage wen the shoulder
press machine full stack becomes enough to rep
20 reps
I can shoulder press nearly as much as I bench?


Machines are shit, do military press, push press for the extra weight and one arm DB clean and press.

[bulldog]

chunk get someone to sit on machine lol

[welshchunk]

nice one bulldog lol
il start military pressing I think

[bulldog]

military is best just dont lean back to far

[Rokie]

Well The information is really useful for me as I am going to start Gym next month and This will be helpful for me in making shoulder exercises . I hope that you will continue to post nice information like it .