lever belt for sale and more to come~!

[maxandtheborrowers]

Selling a belt take a look, its a lever belt.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=180353587119


Shall also soon be selling a Titan centurian plus sqaut suit and a Titan the fury Bench shirt. Both only wore a few times.

[Phil Beniston]

Not retiring already are you Max??

[SrJoker]

what sizes will the suits be?

[maxandtheborrowers]

yep, retiring due to not being well enough. mentally im not well enough. my illness has taken a hold lately and my coach just dont understand and sees me as weak. So, yeah, reitiring!

squat suit is 42, bench shirt is 40.

[roni]

Max - never met you but seen some posts on here.

All I'd say is, that it's much more important how you see yourself, as opposed to the opinion of your coach - or anyone else, come to that.
You've found a sport where competing with others is, of course, part of the whole process - but for most powerlfiters it's about development.
Improving yourself and competing with your own numbers is way more important than results relative to other lifters - or what other people think.
Maybe pause for a bit of thought and look at the potential benefits to you of powerlifting vs. other activities. If you still think you'll get more from a different regime, then crack on - but if there's more you can get out of powerlifting, then give it another go, but do it your way.

[maxandtheborrowers]

Thank u for yr post roni.
Basically, i have borderline personality disorder. iv been quite unwell recently and as a result tried to comit suicide. from this my coach does not want anything else to do with. He said he would get me to the competition on sun but quite frankly he is not the most reliable and has not answered any of my texts. Also my head and more importantly my heart is just not in it, so i have pulled out. Also physically i have not recovered from the o.d.
I found powerlifting good but also very mentally presssuring and very time consuming. i also am recoveroing from an eating disorder and this was quite pressuring on my eating.
I am not slagging my coach off and i am very gratefull for everything he has done but i can not be around ppl who think because i sucumb to my illness once in a while and self harm or go back on my medication that i am weak. understanding i need not judging. Unfortunatly this is not my only experience with powerlifters and have met a few who share his opinion.
So im going bk to the fitness cleses i did before, they were fun and more flexable.
thank u tho for yr encouragment, gratelly apreciated.
xxxx

[MattGriff]

Not to be too nosey, but I am really ;)

What is the disorder? even if you feel like powerlifitng has served its time in your opinion at the moment it doesn't mean you should give up with weighs all together.

[maxandtheborrowers]

Borderline Personality disorder in brief is : (got this off the net!)

Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a serious mental illness characterized by pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior. This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. Originally thought to be at the "borderline" of psychosis, people with BPD suffer from a disorder of emotion regulation. There is a high rate of self-injury without suicide intent, as well as a significant rate of suicide attempts and completed suicide in severe cases. Patients often need extensive mental health services, and account for 20 percent of psychiatric hospitalizations.Yet, with help, many improve over time and are eventually able to lead productive lives.

Its very complicated so thought it best to just cut and paste that!

As for giving up all together, i will not powerlift as such but will never give up the weights all together!

[Rooster5'9"]

Borderline Personality disorder in brief is : (got this off the net!)

Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a serious mental illness characterized by pervasive instability in moods, interpersonal relationships, self-image, and behavior. This instability often disrupts family and work life, long-term planning, and the individual's sense of self-identity. Originally thought to be at the "borderline" of psychosis, people with BPD suffer from a disorder of emotion regulation. There is a high rate of self-injury without suicide intent, as well as a significant rate of suicide attempts and completed suicide in severe cases. Patients often need extensive mental health services, and account for 20 percent of psychiatric hospitalizations.Yet, with help, many improve over time and are eventually able to lead productive lives.

Its very complicated so thought it best to just cut and paste that!

As for giving up all together, i will not powerlift as such but will never give up the weights all together!

Hey bud, I have a few friends who hav suffered from BPD and similar conditions so I hav an idea of where you are coming from.....well done for keeping on top of it - it's not easy, and as much as it's something YOU hav to do yourself (it's your head after all), the support of those around you is fundamental to successful 'rehabilitation'. Therefore, when someone who you would look to for support / encouragement / guidance; especially someone as 'close' to you as your coach; can't even attempt to understand your condition (he/she sounds like an unsympathetic cunt) then you are best to stay away from them. As others have kinda indicated.... FUCK these people, it's about YOU, and only you. Just coz your coach is being a dick, doesn't mean that you should give up something you enjoy (and hopefully - gain benefit from - self-esteem, confidence, purpose, etc - all of which are great combatents against BPD).

If your head isn't in the game, then yeah....take a break...if it's just coz of your coach, find a new one or tell him why you feel this way. In most cases such as this, its the ignorance of the person being 'critical' that cause such issues....maybe.....you will know whether your coach is receptive to such ideas.....educate him/her as to the condition you have been 'clinically' diagnosed with (its a REAL mdeical issue not just something that teenage girls suffer from - if you get me???) and the causes, symptoms & effects not only of the afflication itself, but also the effects of any medication that you may be taking for it.

I know a friend of mine is taking anti-depressents to combat his self-harming and the main effect he found from the meds, was becoming socially reclusive and incredibly anxious of any social situation - only when I spoke with him via MSN (a medium he was comfortable talking about it through) did he explain this to me. Now, we only meet in quiet bars / cafes where we KNOW that we won't bump into anyone we know and he won't be flustered by shit loads of people.

Do you still meet / speak with your psychiatrist / psychologist??? What do they suggest?? Other than your coach acting like this......does your training help you to combat your condition at all?? How have you family supported you?? What do they think of your decision to leave PL??? Do they know / get on with your coach?? Can any of them speak with him on your behalf if you feel uncomfortable doing so??

Whatever choice you make, so long as you are happy with it, and it's YOUR decision, GO FOR IT, more power to you bud.

I wish you all the best for your recovery, GOOD LUCK!!

[maxandtheborrowers]

Wow, thank you so much for that messege, i needed that, its nice to knoe some ppl do actually understand. To answer some of yr questions. When i first began training with my caoch i was completly up front and 100% honest with him about the BPD. I explined to the best of my ability the effects it had on me, such as the self harm, bulimia, attatchment issues etc. He seemed to accept that because i was succeeding at the time in not self harming etc. However at times i had brief relapses and when these occured he would tell me to take a break, 'sort my head out' and then come back to him. I tried to explain its not a case of sorting my head out and in fact stopping training was actually more detrimental to me, but he always treated me as if i had done something wrong and would punish me by not training me. As you can imagine this did nothing for my self esteem. He once said to me that he was simply a friend and a coach not my pyschiatrist and was ther to train me nothing else. If this was the case why did he see fit to punish me? After all, i never spoke to him about my problems so there is no reason that it would actaully effect him.
So when i tried to comit suicide 2 weeeks ago i was afraid to tell him, but thought no, be honest max, he will appreciate that. But he didnt, he said i was on my own.
He knows i was going thru a difficult time with after 10years of therapy and an intencive course of Dialectical Behavoural Therapy over the past year i am due to leave next week. This is a VERY scary move. But he saw it as something i should be pleased about, which it should, but he could not understand how scary this is also. Im also waiting to hear whether a man who abused me is to charged. Again all he could say is, thats in the past, dont think about it. Again, hes right to a point, but as you know ppl with BDP find there emotions very intence so is not always that easy.

Training does help combat my illness, it is a very good distraction technique and helps me feel better about myself. But i do get more from cardio work so am happy to go back to that. There is no one else around here who powerlifts, and the only other guy who i would trust to 'spot' me is great friends with my coach and hasnt spoken to me since.
As for getting ppl to speak to him for me, quite frankly, even if he would train me, i wouldnt want to now.

My desion is made and im happy with it. Just another chapter in my life and another lesson learned. They say in hard times u find out who your friends are, i certainly have!!

Thank you again for understanding,
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[cuntos]

Max, I know fuck all about stuff like this, so I'm not going to patronise you and try to offer advice.

However, I would just like to say that the chances are your coach is not a bad guy; he's probably just a bloke who is frightened by stuff he doesn't understand and doesn't want to have to deal with it. Having said that, I've never met him, he might just be a cock!

Try to keep doing the actual power lifts (squat, bench press and deadlift) if you can still enjoy them (no need to compete or be coached if you don't want) as they are awesome for building strength if they're done properly. If you can't trust anyone at your current gym, is there somewhere else you could train?

[Sorry if that bit ^^^ sounds like me trying to offer advice ;)]

Good luck!

[Rooster5'9"]

Wow, thank you so much for that messege, i needed that, its nice to knoe some ppl do actually understand. To answer some of yr questions. When i first began training with my caoch i was completly up front and 100% honest with him about the BPD. I explined to the best of my ability the effects it had on me, such as the self harm, bulimia, attatchment issues etc. He seemed to accept that because i was succeeding at the time in not self harming etc. However at times i had brief relapses and when these occured he would tell me to take a break, 'sort my head out' and then come back to him. I tried to explain its not a case of sorting my head out and in fact stopping training was actually more detrimental to me, but he always treated me as if i had done something wrong and would punish me by not training me. As you can imagine this did nothing for my self esteem. He once said to me that he was simply a friend and a coach not my pyschiatrist and was ther to train me nothing else. If this was the case why did he see fit to punish me? After all, i never spoke to him about my problems so there is no reason that it would actaully effect him.
So when i tried to comit suicide 2 weeeks ago i was afraid to tell him, but thought no, be honest max, he will appreciate that. But he didnt, he said i was on my own.
He knows i was going thru a difficult time with after 10years of therapy and an intencive course of Dialectical Behavoural Therapy over the past year i am due to leave next week. This is a VERY scary move. But he saw it as something i should be pleased about, which it should, but he could not understand how scary this is also. Im also waiting to hear whether a man who abused me is to charged. Again all he could say is, thats in the past, dont think about it. Again, hes right to a point, but as you know ppl with BDP find there emotions very intence so is not always that easy.

Training does help combat my illness, it is a very good distraction technique and helps me feel better about myself. But i do get more from cardio work so am happy to go back to that. There is no one else around here who powerlifts, and the only other guy who i would trust to 'spot' me is great friends with my coach and hasnt spoken to me since.
As for getting ppl to speak to him for me, quite frankly, even if he would train me, i wouldnt want to now.

My desion is made and im happy with it. Just another chapter in my life and another lesson learned. They say in hard times u find out who your friends are, i certainly have!!

Thank you again for understanding,
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I have sent my reply to your hotmail account Max - speak soon.

[Rob Thomas]

Come on Max, don't give in yet, you don't really need a coach anyway. Just take what you already know, get advice from here and just treat the whole thing as a bit of fun.

[burn2live-live2burn]

Keep at it Max, it's tough, but you will pull through.

[maxandtheborrowers]

Am doing all i can to stay in the land of the living at the mo,
looks like i cud loose my job now due to the o.d.

[neoteny]

Come on Max, don't give in yet, you don't really need a coach anyway. Just take what you already know, get advice from here and just treat the whole thing as a bit of fun.

Good advice, wishing you all the best mate and hope you get back into it :-)

[Phil Beniston]

Come on Max, don't give in yet, you don't really need a coach anyway. Just take what you already know, get advice from here and just treat the whole thing as a bit of fun.

Sorry you feel Paul let you down Max, but like Rob said you dont need a coach any more, your lifting was coming on great anyway, must have been making you feel good about yourself, hope you give it another shot, good luck either way. :)