what supplements

[welshchunk]

hi guys,im just looking for advise on what supplements to take.
im 100kg and looking to gain strength and mass.
dnt really know wat to go for.any suggestions please?

[Dave B]

I've pm'd you

[welshchunk]

nice 1 dave.hows the wife dude?

[Dave B]

nice 1 dave.hows the wife dude?

More hormonal than a juiceboy on a competition cycle mate.

[suffolkpower]

dont take any, spend your money on equipment instead. i see no need to spend money on supplements if you are not lacking in anything specific to start with.

[big baz]

Good food and PLENTY of it.

[Dave B]

Just say your prayers and take your vitamins :cool:

[kyle]

i say take whatever you feel you need to reach your goals depending on the fed/s you plan on lifting in,its fine spending your money on equipment like mike said but equipment isnt the be all and end all of bigger totals,you also have to get stronger,if it takes various supplements of the natural kind and otherwise then go for it so long as you are within the rules of your fed. as mentioned,you dont actually need them to be able to lift well,but why not take advantage of whatever tool are available,at lest you wont think you are short changing yourself.

[MattGriff]

I just fuck all the gimick suppliments off and take loads of drugs, cheaper and way more effective.

[kyle]

ahh fuck it matt,more to the point it is then.lol,id say
enanthate
cyp
prop
tren
d-bol
oxy
halo
methyl t
and maybe throw some whey protein and creatine in for good measure.

[MattGriff]

I knew it was some dodgy druggie from NI who took my shopping list!

[Phil R]

come on guys lets just keep i to the main subject eh
thare are lots of new younger lifters looking on here, and after all this is not really the topic posted
:) :)

[kyle]

I knew it was some dodgy druggie from NI who took my shopping list!

LOL,thats only your maintainance/bridging cycle matt.

sorry phil.

[suffolkpower]

what goes around comes around!!! you do not need supplements to achieve your potential in powerlifting! good food , good training principles and rest . live the lifestyle and you will succeed. of course supplements work and have benefits but i see no point in them. i take nothing at all, like phil said , new people coming into the sport should not think that supplements or harder subsatnces are the key to success. training is the key! CONSISTANCY AND PERSISTANCY.

[gerthebear]

Im with what suffolkpower said, but it's no harm to just make sure you get in enough protein per day as it will aid in recovery and building muscle. If you want to gain size and weight, you need to increase calories. if you struggle to eat 6 meals a day a weight gainer may help with a meal. otherwise just eat eat eat and train hard.

[cuntos]

Definitely use whey protein. Otherwise, just eat.

[kyle]

what goes around comes around!!! you do not need supplements to achieve your potential in powerlifting! good food , good training principles and rest . live the lifestyle and you will succeed. of course supplements work and have benefits but i see no point in them. i take nothing at all, like phil said , new people coming into the sport should not think that supplements or harder subsatnces are the key to success. training is the key! CONSISTANCY AND PERSISTANCY.

theres no point in taking something that has benefits????how wise is that statement?

[big baz]

3-5lb of steak a day worked real well for me when i was stuck at and trying to get past 21stones not supplements, spend your money on red meat instead you will get a hell of a lot better gains and exellent strength gains from it.

[Jason Griffiths]

We dont all want to be 21 stone! And if i did it would have to be at 6% BF :p To do that i would be eating a whole lot of fish n rice cakes as well as taking epherdrine every 10 mins! :p

Supplements used correctly are a great addition to the diet. It's difficult to get enough protein in the diet by eating whole food unless you want the ridiculous food bills and high calorie count! Protein powders are an excellent source of protein and are very easy to prepare.

I dont agree that eating red meat everyday is the healthiest choice of diet! That actually worries me slightly!

I agree with Suffolk that hard work and consitensy are key, but disagree that taking no supplements is the best way to go. If it will aid you then why not take advantage of it? If used correctly in addition to training you will gain the benefits!

As far as the original question goes, I think good supplements other than protein powders are BCAA’s (inc glutamine) as they are very anabolic. A lot of people rate Creatine highly; personally I dislike monohydrate as it bloats me but CEE worked fairly well (nothing incredible). If your goal is strength just make sure you are eating a well structed diet with a lot of complex carbs. Good fats are also extremely relevant, fatty fish, peanut butter, nuts, olive oil are your friend!

[cuntos]

3-5lbs of red meat a day sounds like a good recipe for bankruptcy, colon cancer and a heart attack...

[Dave B]

3-5lb of steak a day worked real well for me when i was stuck at and trying to get past 21stones not supplements, spend your money on red meat instead you will get a hell of a lot better gains and exellent strength gains from it.

Credit crunch? What credit crunch? :cool:

[MattGriff]

3-5lbs of red meat a day sounds like a good recipe for bankruptcy, colon cancer and a heart attack...

Isn't that recipie in Jamie Olivers new book?

[suffolkpower]

most of the shite just goes right through your digestive system anyway! i did say that they had benefits yes kyle but to me i feel no need to put anything extra into my body. you can acheive your goals naturally without them , and as for anything more than drug free supplements , nah, i have kids and a wife to think of. no chance.

[kyle]

how high do you set your goals but mike?what goals have you reached that have set you apart from others?you are lifting in an untested fed,dont you think that you are kidding youself

WELSHCHUNK,i would be inclined to search out the advice,methods of training,nutrition and supplementation of the lifters who have lifts,totals and titles to there name.it only makes sence to apply the principles of these lifters and see if a similar approach will work for you. i can say something with confidence though,and it is that 99% of the top powerlifters are using every means at there disposal to win those titles, lets be realistic,they are not sapping there power from the atmosphere.

[jamwithtupac]

3-5lb of steak a day worked real well for me when i was stuck at and trying to get past 21stones not supplements, spend your money on red meat instead you will get a hell of a lot better gains and exellent strength gains from it.

Dude, every comment you make on eating food is OTT (over the top) first 8-9 meals a day, then LOTS OF FOOD, then 3-5lbs of meat a day, eating food is good, but eating too much is pointless, and makes you gain unneccesary weight(fat),

[Martin Brown]

WELSHCHUNK,i would be inclined to search out the advice,methods of training,nutrition and supplementation of the lifters who have lifts,totals and titles to there name.it only makes sence to apply the principles of these lifters and see if a similar approach will work for you. i can say something with confidence though,and it is that 99% of the top powerlifters are using every means at there disposal to win those titles, lets be realistic,they are not sapping there power from the atmosphere.

Good advice there.

Im a fan of protein/carb/fat supplements when you cant get real food. It works and it's as simple as that.

Realisitically to have a good chance of being competitive you need to do everything in your favour. Sure, stick within the rules of the fed you compete in but there's no point not using things like creatine, pre workout boosters, and a good post workout protein and carb drink. Other than that an omega 3 supplement can be a good idea and maybe a protein shake before bed.

Unless you sit on your ass all day your not likely to get 9 meals in!

M

[Jason Griffiths]

5lbs of steak works out to be 4800 kcals and 272g Fat according to http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-beef-i69965

[powerman]

just keep it basic,a good diet with some protein shakes and creatine.then slowly add other supplements,i have been buying BSN supplements the last 2 years,and they do make a difference.the NO-EXPLODE is good.but its up to you how far to take it.i must have spent over £1000 last year on BSN.

[MattGriff]

.i must have spent over £1000 last year on BSN.

You see I spend about £500 on alternate 'suppliments' so by my thinking I have saved money and got way better results from it, win win! lol

[kyle]

You see I spend about £500 on alternate 'suppliments' so by my thinking I have saved money and got way better results from it, win win! lol

you didnt mention matt that the £500 was for your 4 week peaking cycle.

[powerman]

i have had some good results too...

[MattGriff]

you didnt mention matt that the £500 was for your 4 week peaking cycle.

Lol, I confused Oxy with D'bol and had 10 a day

[Martin Brown]

Lol, I confused Oxy with D'bol and had 10 a day

Sounds like an easy way to make it to SHW!

[MattGriff]

Sounds like an easy way to make it to SHW!

Very true, or the liver failure ward :shock:

[Funky_monkey]

Lol, I confused Oxy with D'bol and had 10 a day

5mg d-bol tabs or 20mg d-bol tabs?

[powerman]

i have had some excellent results on the BSN supplements.

[Jason Griffiths]

I've been reacting very well to the Optimum nutrition whey...tastes nice too, i love it, I FUCKING LOVE IT!

[MattGriff]

I react very well to blowjobs, free pizzas, long naps while at work and copious amounts of recreational drugs mixed with a healthy dose of pornography

[welshchunk]

what assosiations let u lift geared up then?
im so fekn clueless?

[suffolkpower]

how high do you set your goals but mike?what goals have you reached that have set you apart from others?you are lifting in an untested fed,dont you think that you are kidding youself

WELSHCHUNK,i would be inclined to search out the advice,methods of training,nutrition and supplementation of the lifters who have lifts,totals and titles to there name.it only makes sence to apply the principles of these lifters and see if a similar approach will work for you. i can say something with confidence though,and it is that 99% of the top powerlifters are using every means at there disposal to win those titles, lets be realistic,they are not sapping there power from the atmosphere.

my goals are set to what i know i am capable of lifting at my absolute best. i do not need any added help from supplements,i have been in this game over 20 years kyle and i know alot about powerlifting here in the uk . and the only person i want to beat is myself. i lift in an untested fed because i can get the satisfaction of being totally drug free and i like the organisation and lifters in it. my goal is a 300kg squat drug free in the 75kg masters 1 class. just to note that the bwla british record in 262.5kg masters 1 75kg class, set in 1982!!!! a 27 year record!! my goals will be reached , and i was always in the sport for the long haul. ! its all about the preparation.

[cuntos]

Mike, on a serious note, why not lift in the GBPF if you are lifetime drug free? Getting the squat record would also be pretty good! Maybe that's your plan anyway. Is it?

As far as liking the organisation and the lifters in it, I've lifted in BWLA (and will be doing GBPF this year), the BPC and the BDFPA in the last couple of years and have got good mates who lift in each fed. I don't see any need to restrict yourself to the BPO if you fancy lifting against some new faces from time to time.

If you were to lift in all of the UK feds and beat everybody in your age and weight class that would be something of an achievement I reckon!

[suffolkpower]

i started out in bwla and am an avid supporter and have many many friends there. and yes thats the plan also to go for the gbpf records. the bpc is beyond my capabilities realisticly.i have also lifted in the bdfpa but you cant realisticly lift for them all just going after titles or records...

[cuntos]

Fair points. It'd be awesome if you could go to the IPF World Masters though and that must spur you on to get stronger!