Pre Comp Nerves...

[Ryan_W]

Well I'm sitting here in front of my computer feeling like I'm either going to throw up or shit myself :p

I've got my 3rd ever comp tomorrow and I'll be attempting to qualify for the Brits (BDFPA)... I don't think I've ever been this nervous before!

Do any of you get/feel like this before a comp?

Do you have any little secrets or routines to calm your nerves?

Cheers lads,

Ry

[Hellspawn]

its the BDFPA not the WBC or WBA whats to be worried about ?

[Ryan_W]

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Lol




I've got my 3rd ever comp tomorrow

I think this may be my main reason ;)

You must remember back to when you first started lifting, were you not worried back then?

[Hellspawn]

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Lol



I think this may be my main reason ;)

You must remember back to when you first started lifting, were you not worried back then?


Nope do i look worried ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv9oGxOF2-c

[suffolkmike]

why are you so nervous?

[Rob Thomas]

Grolsch

[LiamGTR]

I can sort of feel your pain, i'm going for my medical for boxing on sunday and i'm nervous about my 1st fight

[curt]

500mg magnesium, 5g taurine, take the same tomorrow.

Good luck, when your there its sweet!

[VINNY]

I think being nervous is good. It implies a high level of importance you mentally assiciate with the event, which will enable you to draw on untapped reserves. Use it - let the addrenaline fuel you.

Good luck

[gerthebear]

good luck tommorow. hope you get the 240 that your after!

[Funky_monkey]

Sleep. I hope you're asleep when i'm writing this. If you stay up, you'll perform sub-par. Sleep tons, get there nice and rested and give it 110%. All your training has been done, there's nothing you can change about that. Oh and good luck.

[Pork Pie]

Embrace the nerves - they are there for a reason. Use their energy and the fear of failure to perform better - Lyndford Christie told me that beleive it or not.

[jamwithtupac]

I remember my pre competition nerves when I had piano competitions few years ago, but as soon as you start playing the nerves go and you just aim to put your best in it.

You'll be fine, nerves are good

[SOTB]

Embrace the nerves - they are there for a reason. Use their energy and the fear of failure to perform better - Linford Christie told me that beleive it or not.
Was that fear of failure of a drugs test?

[Ryan_W]

Well I ended up getting about 4 hours sleep as one of our dogs was really ill last night...

Qualified with 467.5kg total but had quite a bit more in the tank...

Ger: Didn't bother going for 240, pulled 235 but it was a no lift (still unsure as to why exactly)... Got it up pretty well I thought... I'll get 240 soon ;)

[gerthebear]

well doen anyway ryan, thats a good first comp total!

[Ryan_W]

Cheers mate... If I can get my squat sorted I should be totalling around 500kg raw by the Brits...

Videos shall be up shortly...

[Jabba]

Well I ended up getting about 4 hours sleep as one of our dogs was really ill last night...

Qualified with 467.5kg total but had quite a bit more in the tank...

Ger: Didn't bother going for 240, pulled 235 but it was a no lift (still unsure as to why exactly)... Got it up pretty well I thought... I'll get 240 soon ;)

Ask POLITELY, the ref will tell you why you were red lighted. You cant be expected to correct a fault if you don't know what the fault is!

[Ryan_W]

After watching the vids, I can see why he failed me... Slight hitching :(

[gerthebear]

haha slight? a hitch is a hitch no?? lol im just kiding.

good going. what was the breakdown. link me to the vid when its up

[Ryan_W]

Vids are going on you tube as I type...

Lifts went:

120 - Pass
130 - Fail (not deep enough)
140 - Pass

95 - Pass
100 - Fail (slight bounce)
100 - Pass

210 - Pass
227.5 - Pass
235 - Fail (hitched)

I'm still very new to all this so mistakes are bound to me made... I'll just keep trying my best and work on my technique!

[Jabba]

What's your username on youtube?

[Ryan_W]

Here's my 3rd squat/GM lol
140kg Squat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b1Oz_ptaW8)

[Ryan_W]

Here's my 2nd deadlift
227.5kg Deadlift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnepf44Zdoo)

You can hear my mum and nan cheering me on lol...

[Ryan_W]

3rd deadlift
235kg Deadlift (fail) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NypCgG4eFRs)

Mum doesn't know the rules bless her!

[Ryan_W]

I was annoyed with my weak lockout on the 235 pull, so as soon as I got home I went and did some lockout work (rack pulls). I know I shouldn't have but I was seriosuly f**ked off so I went and trained anyway... It went something like:

70x10
110x8
150x6
190x5
210x4
230x3
250x1

250kg Rack Pull (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md5m3PK8Nvo)

My hands were in bits from the comp hence the straps and pain! My mate found it hilarious, c**t!

[James Copping]

"Go on baby", your mum is cute :)

That 140 squat was sooooooooooooo deep, was that what was required all day?

Congrats on the 227.5(500lb!) DL, was that a PB also?

Now take a week off! :)

[gerthebear]

jeez, tight judging. im a hardass when it comes to lifts and depths on squats but that was some TOUGH judging, i would have passed that. i can see the slight shrug but not noticeable till i actually replayed the vid twice! lol

you have great speed from the floor. nice one

[Ryan_W]

I'll tell my mum you said that James lol... That was the deepest squat of the day but everyone else wasn't far off it on depth... I'm still shit a judging depth and after failing my 2nd lift I knew I had to go deep!
I've pulled 232.5kg before at the inter-services in Dec but I'd trained for that... I've hardly trained at all this year...

Ger: I think I'm just going to hit the rack pulls hard and work on my lockout. It was a tight call but I'd rather have it failed at the qualifiers rather than on the day when it really matters...

[James Copping]

I dont think its the rack pulls you need to hit up mate, you have the same issue my training partner has (and is currently rectifying).

You start the pull with a bent back, giving you excellent speed off the floor, but it leaves you a lot weaker at the top of the lift. Make sure you keep a tight arch at all times.

Do you have a vid of the 130 failed squat?

[gerthebear]

yeh also some pull throughs and lots of upper back/trap work shud help

[Ryan_W]

I can see what you're saying mate, I do pull with a bent back. It's worked for me up till now but I know I've got to rectify it if I want to increase my lift... How is your mate rectifying it? Dropping the weights and concentrating on form?

My mum didn't video all my lifts unfortunately. The 130 was at least parallel (well it felt it)... Judging was very strict.

[Ryan_W]

yeh also some pull throughs and lots of upper back/trap work shud help


Like this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5tmfT1DOU&feature=related)

[James Copping]

I can see what you're saying mate, I do pull with a bent back. It's worked for me up till now but I know I've got to rectify it if I want to increase my lift... How is your mate rectifying it? Dropping the weights and concentrating on form?

My mum didn't video all my lifts unfortunately. The 130 was at least parallel (well it felt it)... Judging was very strict.

Yes, if he starts losing his arch I dont let him go any heavier. Speed work with a strict arch is working well too.

[marcg]

Nice lifts mate. you think that judging is tight, wait till you get jabba judging:p
is that your training partner doing pull thrus if it is can i train with you:)

[dr_hazbun]

well done on qualifying Ryan. That 235 was pretty good I thought, harsh not to get it.

[dr_hazbun]

Dropping the weights and concentrating on form?



Speed pulls as James said. Do them from different positions; off the floor, from a deficit, with added band tension at lockout etc

I'm doing this now and hopefully it will help.

[realmank]

That was very strict judging!
You are also losing power and form by doing the little arm lockout at the start. Keep your arms locked, push the hips close to the bar and keep your head up.
IMO - Speed work to improve the technique will be more beneficial that the lockouts as the problem is technical not strength. However initially you may need to slow down your pull to ensure that the form is good.
Good luck!

[gerthebear]

Like this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ5tmfT1DOU&feature=related)

yes, hot girl included :)

oh i fully back the speed work! im a true believe in it for all lifts

[gerthebear]

That was very strict judging!
However initially you may need to slow down your pull to ensure that the form is good.
Good luck!


i disagree there, dont slow down, the aim is to move weights in the quickest and safest way possible., just drop to 50-70% and pull as quick as you can while maintaining form. sometimes form will diminish on a max pull, by dropping the % back and constantly pulling fast you will learn to pull corrctly.

i can well see you deadlifting 260 with some work

but deffo some top end work too

[realmank]

i disagree there, dont slow down, the aim is to move weights in the quickest and safest way possible., just drop to 50-70% and pull as quick as you can while maintaining form. sometimes form will diminish on a max pull, by dropping the % back and constantly pulling fast you will learn to pull corrctly
but deffo some top end work too

I meant initially slow down to re-educate the body to the amended technique (head up/hips forward). Otherwise it will be speed work with exactly the same rounded back form with the hips away from the bar. Then start increasing the speed...

[gerthebear]

I meant initially slow down to re-educate the body to the amended technique (head up/hips forward). Otherwise it will be speed work with exactly the same rounded back form with the hips away from the bar. Then start increasing the speed...

i understand your point, each to their own. i just wouldnt do that. learn correctly from the start. and the correct manner is again, moving it as fast/safely as possible. you can still be fast and learn correct form

[VINNY]

Vids are going on you tube as I type...

Lifts went:

120 - Pass
130 - Fail (not deep enough)
140 - Pass

95 - Pass
100 - Fail (slight bounce)
100 - Pass

210 - Pass
227.5 - Pass
235 - Fail (hitched)

I'm still very new to all this so mistakes are bound to me made... I'll just keep trying my best and work on my technique!


Hi, you did ok well done. Curious? was that a titan squat/deadlift suit you wear wearing with shorts or just a leotard? Not used to seeing lifters in shorts!
if it was a titan suit, it didnt look like it gave you much at the bottom and may need tightening up by an inch ir more.

[Ryan_W]

I hope so Ger! I'll drop the weight a little to around 200/210 and try to hold my arch throughout... I think just holding your head up ammends bad form and keeps the arch...

[Ryan_W]

Vinny: I compete raw... I was just wearing an Inzer vest and some running shorts. I really need to get a singlet soon...

[cuntos]

Ger I think that realmank was saying that, since the lad has already not learnt correctly, he needs to take a step back to take two (or more) steps forward. When I had realmank coaching me he took me from a very ugly 200k limit deadlift to a 235k deadlift in short order, by making me go back to around 150k to learn how to do it a bit more properly. Yes, it was still shit, but it was a significant improvement for a fat lad with stubby arms!

Anyway, well done Ryan. Onwards and upwards!

[bulldog]

and thats what were doing again tom to the sqt lol

[cuntos]

and thats what were doing again tom to the sqt lolYeah! :( Hopefully it'll be worth it though. :):)

[gerthebear]

Ger I think that realmank was saying that, since the lad has already not learnt correctly, he needs to take a step back to take two (or more) steps forward. When I had realmank coaching me he took me from a very ugly 200k limit deadlift to a 235k deadlift in short order, by making me go back to around 150k to learn how to do it a bit more properly. Yes, it was still shit, but it was a significant improvement for a fat lad with stubby arms!

Anyway, well done Ryan. Onwards and upwards!

thats pretty good coaching, cant argue with that

but

i DID advise him to drop back the weights also, i said "50-70%",obviously starting with 50% and working his way up. there's still no reason as to why he cant pull them quickly, the weights are light enough to perform good form + speed, kill two birds with one stone. just my 2cent

i think 200/210 is too heavy to learn good form ryan. would deffo re-think that.

[Ryan_W]

Yup, me too mate...
Had a word with a mate and he advised to start off around 140/160 to ammend my form...

I'll give it a crack on Wednesday and see how I get on. I may DL something like:

60x10
100x8
140x6x3
160x6x3
100x10

Bit more of a body building approach (building up support muscles) than just going all out with bad form...

I'll also try some pull throughs. Any others I should have a go at?

Ry