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leggyllana
11-01-2007, 06:55 PM
Hello everyone

My name is Llana and I'm 24 years old and living in North East London. I have recently discovered the wonderful sport of powerlifting and have been practising my lifts 3x/week at my gym. I have made good gains in the last 6 months, and have been secretly taking advice from this excellent site! Now, I will contribute and introduce myself.

Height: 5'4
Weight: 56kg
Squat: 110kg
Bench: 65kg
Deadlift: 130kg

I want to meet some of the female and male lifters here and train with people in the London area. (preferrably girls!! - so that it is not awkward chnging into suits and shirts!!)

Llana

Fruitbat
11-01-2007, 07:24 PM
welcome! I am new here too. Do you train raw or equipped? have you been to any competitions?

dr_hazbun
11-01-2007, 07:34 PM
Hi llana

Good strong lifts there. Keep up the good work.

leggyllana
11-01-2007, 07:37 PM
welcome! I am new here too. Do you train raw or equipped? have you been to any competitions?

Hi fruitbat

I've started wrapping my knees for the squat, otherwise all raw. I haven't been to any comps yet. :)

massive
11-01-2007, 08:31 PM
try british barbell there is a big girl called ben that traines there

bulldog
11-01-2007, 08:39 PM
where in london are you my gyms near hanger lane wembley,there is a comp on 17 nov for novices we can help you

Fruitbat
11-01-2007, 08:40 PM
wow you are very strong! :) definitely time you started competing! 110kg raw squat at 56kg BW is awesome! Same goes for bench and DLs.

leggyllana
11-01-2007, 08:44 PM
where in london are you my gyms near hanger lane wembley,there is a comp on 17 nov for novices we can help you

I live in Wanstead in Redbridge. The comp sounds good. Do I need to join a federation for it?

leggyllana
11-01-2007, 08:47 PM
wow you are very strong! :) definitely time you started competing! 110kg raw squat at 56kg BW is awesome! Same goes for bench and DLs.

I used to be a 100m/200m/400m sprinter at high school so my body is explosive. My father is originally from Russia and claims that he was a strongman in his day so maybe it runs in the genes. But then all Russian men think they are strong lol

You are stong too :) Thanks for the complements. Do you train in London at all Fruitbat?

kyle
11-01-2007, 08:54 PM
hi and welcome to the site,take bulldog up on his offer and do the comp,its the best why to learn plus you only think uve been bitten by the PL bug until you compete,you'll never look back. good luck.

Rob Thomas
11-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Welcome to the sie leggyllana

Fruitbat
11-01-2007, 10:10 PM
I used to be a 100m/200m/400m sprinter at high school so my body is explosive. My father is originally from Russia and claims that he was a strongman in his day so maybe it runs in the genes. But then all Russian men think they are strong lol

You are stong too :) Thanks for the complements. Do you train in London at all Fruitbat?


I used to be a gymnast but that doesnt seem to have left me in as good stead as sprinting :D

I occasionally visit my family in London area but I have never trained there. Having said that, I have no one experienced to train with so I am planning lots of trips to train with people who do know.

bulldog
11-01-2007, 10:16 PM
comps on here under hireps gym its in folkston hellspawn on this sight is running it

Hellspawn
11-01-2007, 10:46 PM
hi and welcome to the forum ! details of where we are are on http://www.hirepgym.com/

Bulldog can tell you more
i originaly come from around Wanstead in Ilford
we have three lady lifters competing so far one novice Tracy @ 67.5kg bwt
Agata Wrobel the olympic champion and strongwoman Hanne Bingle so far

BBDOM
11-02-2007, 05:06 AM
great lifting leggyllana .welcome to site

neoteny
11-02-2007, 07:47 AM
Impressive lifts leggyllana, welcome to the site.

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 10:12 AM
I've been to Ben Banks' website www.british-barbell.co.uk .. It looks like a good no nonsense gym and it has a few girlie members too which is great but the only problem I have with it is that he only allows BWLA lifters to train there! What if I want to lift with other feds too? I think his gym is too exclusive for me. I will contact him and go down for a chat if possible.

Is BWLA the best federation out there? I know that it is drug tested and so on but I don't really care about that..I just want to meet people who like lifting. Sorry for the newbie questions. :oops:

Rob Thomas
11-02-2007, 10:54 AM
Everyone will have their own views on which federation is the best, it's all a matter of personal choice. You need to decide whether you are interested in lifting in a drug tested fed or not, whether you want to lift unequipped or equipped and then if equipped, whether you want to lift in single or double ply equipment.

Phil R
11-02-2007, 10:55 AM
welcome llana,

Hellspawn
11-02-2007, 11:37 AM
http://www.hirepgym.com/images/Cobra/cobra%201.jpg

Lady Powerlifters get their own personal bar loader/unloader and training bag carrier here i just happen to have one spare see above

BigD
11-02-2007, 12:12 PM
Welcome to the site Leggy, it's good to have more women on here...:)

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 12:22 PM
Thanks for the welcomes everyone.

Hellspawn, with guns like that, that man can carry my gym bag anywhere! lol

Rob, I'm not bothered about drug tested feds and I want to start lifting with kit, single ply to start with. I just want to participate in comps that are good fun...oh and win my weight class from time to time ;)

Rob Thomas
11-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the welcomes everyone.

Hellspawn, with guns like that, that man can carry my gym bag anywhere! lol

Rob, I'm not bothered about drug tested feds and I want to start lifting with kit, single ply to start with. I just want to participate in comps that are good fun...oh and win my weight class from time to time ;)

If you are interested in lifting sinlge ply then you won't go far wrong with BWLA. There are also quite a few female lifters in BWLA now too so I'm sure you'll have plenty of competition!

Hellspawn
11-02-2007, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the welcomes everyone.

Hellspawn, with guns like that, that man can carry my gym bag anywhere! lol

Rob, I'm not bothered about drug tested feds and I want to start lifting with kit, single ply to start with. I just want to participate in comps that are good fun...oh and win my weight class from time to time ;)

you wont get a better offer than your own personal Gladiator ! Cobra is fully house trained as well

BigD
11-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Hellspawn, with guns like that, that man can carry my gym bag anywhere! lol



My guns are bigger than his.....:p:p:p

neoteny
11-02-2007, 01:58 PM
hmmmm, i cannot really compete here :-(

Martin Flett
11-02-2007, 02:04 PM
Size isn't everything!

Rob Thomas
11-02-2007, 02:20 PM
My guns are bigger than his.....:p:p:p

So are mine, but so is my gut LOL!

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 03:10 PM
If you are interested in lifting sinlge ply then you won't go far wrong with BWLA. There are also quite a few female lifters in BWLA now too so I'm sure you'll have plenty of competition!

Thanks for the advice Rob with the big guns (and belly :)), I'm filling in a BWLA form at the mo.

Btw Rob I've googled your lifts. Your raw bench is phenomenal, you must have arms like legs! Squat and deadlift are good too, but your bench rocks. Keep up the good work big guy.

Mr Kobra
11-02-2007, 03:38 PM
Hi leggyllana, if you find yourself in south east London you can train with us at crystal palace.

Hellspawn
11-02-2007, 04:05 PM
you do realise Rob is Welsh and married with nine wives and 83 kids ?

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 05:29 PM
you do realise Rob is Welsh and married with nine wives and 83 kids ?

lol. No.

Rob Thomas
11-02-2007, 05:37 PM
Lol!

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 05:49 PM
Bench session today:

I trained with a regular at my health club today called 'Big Tony' :confused: and believe me all the teenie boys ran away from the bench station when they saw us coming! He is built like Terry Hollands. In fact we didn't have to wait for anything. lol

Bench:

bar x 10
30kg x 8
40kg x 6
50kg x 2
55kg x 1
60kg x 3sets x 1rep

Close grip:

bar x 8
30 x 6
45 x 3sets x4reps

tricep kickbacks: 7.5kg dumbbells each hand. 3 x 12 reps

Dips: 4sets x5reps

Hammer curls: 4sets

Happy with that. Might train with Big Tony more often (he was benching 160 on his heavy sets for reps with me spotting him lol what a joke, like I'd be able to save him from being crushed by that sort of weight)

MattGriff
11-02-2007, 06:12 PM
Terry himself is a member here.

Nice benching, its a fair lift for a newish lifter.
I must ask: Kickbacks? souds like a waste of energy to me, skull crushers, heavy pressdowns or prehaps overheads would serve a bench lockout better. Kickbacks are a shaping movement primarily I think, you won't build and bench power with them.

kyle
11-02-2007, 06:19 PM
if i were you,seeing that british barbell are only open to those who compete in a fed that the owner choses i would then avoid this gym,go to a gym that has lifters who open there minds to various types of lifting and will welcome you regardless of which fed/feds you decide to lift in. if you can make the trip to genisis/bulldogs then i reckon you should do that.

leggyllana
11-02-2007, 06:43 PM
Terry himself is a member here.

Nice benching, its a fair lift for a newish lifter.
I must ask: Kickbacks? souds like a waste of energy to me, skull crushers, heavy pressdowns or prehaps overheads would serve a bench lockout better. Kickbacks are a shaping movement primarily I think, you won't build and bench power with them.


OK I'll get rid of them then. Do you think I should do more than 2 triceps exercises on bench day? Today I did close grips and dips. Should I do skull crushers on top of that? or alternate them with say dipping from one week to the next?

btw your little boy is a proper cutie :)

Mr Kobra
11-02-2007, 07:01 PM
Terry himself is a member here.

Nice benching, its a fair lift for a newish lifter.
I must ask: Kickbacks? souds like a waste of energy to me, skull crushers, heavy pressdowns or prehaps overheads would serve a bench lockout better. Kickbacks are a shaping movement primarily I think, you won't build and bench power with them.

Hey! I do kickbacks! :mad: lol

In all seriousness, I reckon they are ok for anyone who has fucked elbows and can't do skullcrushers (at all) or pressdowns.

Martin Flett
11-02-2007, 07:43 PM
Welcome! I'm not Welsh, I'm not married, I haven't got 83 kids, and Fat Pete thinks I'm very handsome.:p

Hellspawn
11-02-2007, 08:07 PM
Dam i cant find any cute photo's anywhere

MattGriff
11-02-2007, 08:15 PM
OK I'll get rid of them then. Do you think I should do more than 2 triceps exercises on bench day? Today I did close grips and dips. Should I do skull crushers on top of that? or alternate them with say dipping from one week to the next?

btw your little boy is a proper cutie :)

Cheers, yeah he is a star.

Different people use different methods, I have been incorporating board presses with my regular bench another chest press, then right after that close grips followed usually by two other triceps movements, usually pressdowns then skulls. I have had excellent results from it.
But in saying that I am more focused on shirted benching these days so like to smash my lockout. I would defiantly try to keep the tricep movements compound, defiantly close grips or floor press as they both hit the triceps and mimic benching. Pressdowns and skulls you can go heavy on too, and if I were to do overheads it would be bi-lateral not one armed, can use more weight that way. Dips are real good too, I do prefer skulls myself though, but thats becuase I am knackered after the workout and can't dip for shit. Just play around with different things, you will get loads of advice on here, but ultimatly you do need to do what works for you, it really helps training with an experienced lifter, if you can get to Bulldogs gym you would be foolish not to train there, you need honest critique really, Bulldog has been known to be 'blunt' at times :mrgreen:


Hey! I do kickbacks! lol

Lol, I would never admit to that, do you secretly do concentration cable curls too? Or does it make the ‘dream tan’ run? :p



Welcome! I'm not Welsh, I'm not married, I haven't got 83 kids, and Fat Pete thinks I'm very handsome.

Martin you forgot to mention your gold leotard fetish :D

Mr Kobra
11-02-2007, 09:06 PM
Lol, I would never admit to that, do you secretly do concentration cable curls too? Or does it make the ‘dream tan’ run? :p


LOL - I know what you're saying but I figure my bench is respectable enough for me to get away with admitting it! In all seriousness, my elbows don't tolerate skullys.

As far as the concentration curls and dream tan....I already told you that that remains a secret between you, me and Martin (the tan will go well with the gold leotard!!) :mrgreen:

Martin Flett
11-02-2007, 11:23 PM
It's what's under the leotard that counts!

J Power
11-02-2007, 11:48 PM
Hi Liana,my wife lifts and she used to be a sprinter too untill she injured her Achilles tendon.
So its a good base to start from.
If you are in the area pay a visit to Mr Kobra and the crew at the palace,they also have one of the greatest lifters in british powerlifting history and current GB team coach there,oh yeah !

leggyllana
11-03-2007, 12:00 AM
J Power. Are you John Porter from UKPowerliftingBeasts? If your wife is Monica then I'm a MASSIVE fan. I love her lifting and have a screensaver of her squat on my laptop.

I'm going to try and train with Bulldog and the lads down in Genesis twice a week on squat, bench and deadlift and do assistance work at my local health club. I'll take criticism off someone who can squat 460 lol!

Thanks for the advice Matt and Richard (yes, you do have a respectable bench Mr Kobra, but what happened at the IPF worlds bench?!)

Martin, nice posing trunks. I hope you don't lift in those mate. :p

J Power
11-03-2007, 12:35 AM
Yes I am,thanks for the kind words about Monica should help motivate her for the europeans next year.
Try and qualify for the british if you can. Be good to see you there next year.Looking
at the results from the four nations there should hopefully be lot of women lifters there next year.

Martin Flett
11-03-2007, 10:27 AM
Martin, nice posing trunks. I hope you don't lift in those mate. :p

Of course I do! Avoids vpl under the shimmering gold. And makes the kit checks more fun.:D

Mr Kobra
11-03-2007, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the advice Matt and Richard (yes, you do have a respectable bench Mr Kobra, but what happened at the IPF worlds bench?!)

All I can say is that IPF Cat 1 refs and me never quite see eye to eye on how to perform a bench press! lol

Phil R
11-03-2007, 01:20 PM
you do realise Rob is Welsh and married with nine wives and 83 kids ?
he wishes and yeah he is welsh


Welcome! I'm not Welsh, I'm not married, I haven't got 83 kids, and Fat Pete thinks I'm very handsome.:p

lucky old you martin.
nice photo though

Dave Johnson
11-03-2007, 04:35 PM
J Power. Are you John Porter from UKPowerliftingBeasts? If your wife is Monica then I'm a MASSIVE fan. I love her lifting and have a screensaver of her squat on my laptop.

I'm going to try and train with Bulldog and the lads down in Genesis twice a week on squat, bench and deadlift and do assistance work at my local health club. I'll take criticism off someone who can squat 460 lol!

Thanks for the advice Matt and Richard (yes, you do have a respectable bench Mr Kobra, but what happened at the IPF worlds bench?!)

Martin, nice posing trunks. I hope you don't lift in those mate. :p

ha ha

Dave Johnson
11-03-2007, 04:41 PM
Bulldog doesn't squat 460 kilos, he performs high knee bends with it in a mono lift with 4 layers of supporting equipment wrapping his ample ass. It seems like a good gym but please, please don't get caught up in this high knee bend crap, make sure you perform real squats.

Hellspawn
11-03-2007, 07:53 PM
Quote:I'm going to try and train with Bulldog and the lads down in Genesis twice a week on squat, bench and deadlift and do assistance work at my local health club.

Good choice ! not too many real gyms about nowadays and the fact people travel some distance just to train there says it all realy

bulldog
11-03-2007, 09:39 PM
dave j or whoever you pretend to be iv done a 405 low box sqt in belt and wraps with a bwla ref watching stop posting shit and come and train with me or keep your small mindedness to yourself i suppose any lifter better than you is cheating ,who do you lift with or is it saved for the keybourd

Hellspawn
11-03-2007, 09:43 PM
Dont bite mate its another one of them whoever they are which is nothing , i did mention vindictive somewhere didnt i ?

suffolkmike
11-04-2007, 12:16 AM
hi llana. what the hell is ben banks on only allowing bwla lifters to train ?? thats just plain stupid. i see him at a comp lst wkend ,pity i didnt know this then. met his girlfriend and her mate who i helped warm up on the bench. they seemed nice enough girls.good little bencher,one hell of an arch!

suffolkmike
11-04-2007, 12:21 AM
performing a squat to depth with over 400kgs is a real squat!! you wanna try holding that sort of weight, setting it up and just controllling it is unbelievable no matter how many plys you got you still gotta be strong enough.

kyle
11-04-2007, 01:32 AM
its always a good bet that people who slate other peoples achievements have not done or are able to do fuck'all themselves.

Lloyd
11-04-2007, 01:47 AM
Im sure Cuntos will hunt him down with his computer skills. I would be happy with a 460kg knee bend :S

Hellspawn
11-04-2007, 11:36 AM
Im sure Cuntos will hunt him down with his computer skills. I would be happy with a 460kg knee bend :S

Add Lawson to the list Cuntos they are together we will make em famouse ! ha ha ha

dr_hazbun
11-04-2007, 11:42 PM
llana. I'm sorry to say this, but ever since you've joined the website, I've been very dubious about what's going on here. The pic in your avatar looks very much like a nurse I've seen around GKT and her name was Katie and certainly not Llana.

I'm not usually wrong about these things as I tend to have a very good memory for people and faces. Llana, if you are actually Katie, please admit to it and stop posting under a false identity cause there's no point.

If I have got this badly wrong then please accept my sincerest apologies but I don't think I have.

Either pm me or admit it to the forum.

Dr Sam Hazbun

leggyllana
11-05-2007, 12:11 AM
llana. I'm sorry to say this, but ever since you've joined the website, I've been very dubious about what's going on here. The pic in your avatar looks very much like a nurse I've seen around GKT and her name was Katie and certainly not Llana.

I'm not usually wrong about these things as I tend to have a very good memory for people and faces. Llana, if you are actually Katie, please admit to it and stop posting under a false identity cause there's no point.

If I have got this badly wrong then please accept my sincerest apologies but I don't think I have.

Either pm me or admit it to the forum.

Dr Sam Hazbun


Ok. I'll admit it. I was going to do it any way. My name is John Abercrombie and I'm a big powerlifting fan in that I follow it ie I watch it when I can but I my lifting itself is shit. Therefore I have decided to start posting under a false name and I used a false identity. The girl in the avatar is my sister.

Doc, you should work for MI5 cause you're a bloody genius. You certainly got me there mate. Fucking hell. I do have a sister called Katie and she is a nurse and did work at GKT.

I am asking people on this site to please forgive me for posting under a female identity. Those lifts are real but they're mine and I was too ashamed to admit it. Please forgive me. :oops:

bulldog
11-05-2007, 08:42 AM
no probs you can still come down the gym ,as long as you bring your sister !lol

dr_hazbun
11-05-2007, 09:16 AM
Ok. I'll admit it. I was going to do it any way. My name is John Abercrombie and I'm a big powerlifting fan in that I follow it ie I watch it when I can but I my lifting itself is shit. Therefore I have decided to start posting under a false name and I used a false identity. The girl in the avatar is my sister.

Doc, you should work for MI5 cause you're a bloody genius. You certainly got me there mate. Fucking hell. I do have a sister called Katie and she is a nurse and did work at GKT.

I am asking people on this site to please forgive me for posting under a female identity. Those lifts are real but they're mine and I was too ashamed to admit it. Please forgive me. :oops:

I'm glad you sorted it out mate. People here don't care whether you're shit, average or word class. Just post and have fun and try not to insult people. I though I was going mad. When i saw that pic, I racked by brains for ages trying to figure out who that girl was and where I'd seen her before. It turned out that the only reason I remembered her was because all the docs were drooling over her at GKT! lol

P.S. A word of warning. If she got doctors excited in a hospital, can you imagine what choas would ensue if you took her to a gym full of fired up lifters! Don't take her with you to Bulldog's gym :D

Dave Johnson
11-05-2007, 09:34 AM
Looks like my comments have offended, that wasn't my intention and I'm sorry but I just hate seing these "half squats" passed.

Mr Kobra
11-05-2007, 10:52 AM
Have a look at the thread on Chuck Vogelpohl's squats on goheavy.com - you'll be in half-squat heaven!

dr_hazbun
11-05-2007, 11:00 AM
I'll have to agree with Richard here. Those were a great display of strength and aggression but they're not squats and should probably belong in a different sport.

Hellspawn
11-05-2007, 11:21 AM
Cobra wont be a happy chapie now

van_halen
11-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Hellspawn, with guns like that, that man can carry my gym bag anywhere! lol


Lol at this comment then! :p

No seriously, good on you for having the balls to admit it. Like doc says this forum is brilliant because it does accept people at all levels and people will be as excited for somone getting a PB squat of 100kg as someone getting a PB of 300kg.

My lifts were much lower than yours when I started out. I remember running into my living room to tell my flatmate I'd just deadlifted 100kg.

Hellspawn
11-05-2007, 11:43 AM
Quote: (preferrably girls!! - so that it is not awkward chnging into suits and shirts!!)

what about that one then ! the very thought of him helping Agata Wrobel on with her shirt jeeez you got to a very brave guy or bloody stupid

van_halen
11-05-2007, 11:50 AM
Quote: (preferrably girls!! - so that it is not awkward chnging into suits and shirts!!)

what about that one then ! the very thought of him helping Agata Wrobel on with her shirt jeeez you got to a very brave guy or bloody stupid

Yeah but I quite like the idea of a team of girls to help me put my suit and shirt on :icon_wub:

Rob Thomas
11-05-2007, 11:56 AM
WOW Doc, you are a genius!

dr_hazbun
11-05-2007, 12:01 PM
WOW Doc, you are a genius!

I'm not one to forget a pretty nurse when I meet one, even if it was over two years ago!

Hellspawn
11-05-2007, 12:13 PM
Believe it on not Rob we had already started to suspect something wasnt quite cosha round here

Rob Thomas
11-05-2007, 12:19 PM
LOL - fair play!

cuntos
11-05-2007, 12:37 PM
Blimey! I go away for a couple of days and all hell breaks loose - lol!

Top marks for Bulldog's response though: come down the gym and bring your sister.

Hellspawn
11-05-2007, 12:54 PM
the sister was to patch up Dave Johnson ha ha

been a laugh though

dr_hazbun
11-05-2007, 02:05 PM
the sister was to patch up Dave Johnson ha ha


lol

Lloyd
11-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Looks like my comments have offended, that wasn't my intention and I'm sorry but I just hate seing these "half squats" passed.


We have been through all this before! I usually train with Bulldog and we sometimes use a box that is 2" below parrallel and believe it or not he gets his wide load all the way down and pauses on the box. As far as I can tell he squats to the same depth at the competitions. At competitions the only people that can truely judge depth are the refs and it can be very deceptive from the crowd.

My best example is Dave Mannering....from the front (crowd position) he looks a good 6" high, if not more, but from the side view he easily hits depth. I have been lucky enough to view from both angles and it is so deceptive. With a front ref only he would fail everylift!

Cuntos is another who is deceptive. The fat boy looks to depth from the front view but from the side it is borderline. If he lost about 15 stone in weight the view would be clearer!

Dave I notice from another thread that you have never actually competed and are looking for a fed to lift with. I suggest if you want the same rules as Bulldog then lift BPC and we will then see who squats more. Is there any complaint about anyones bench or deadlift?

Hellspawn
11-05-2007, 02:16 PM
well now you come to mention it

Quote:I am a clean lifter so I still have a number of options available to me

does it imply we dont wash regular ?

Martin Flett
11-05-2007, 06:45 PM
Trouble is, John, in twenty years time when you're a big powerlifting star, we're all still going to know you as leggyllana...

bulldog
11-05-2007, 10:32 PM
how can you say i do a half sqt have you sat in a judges chair and judgesd me as have a lot of top judges ,do you actually no what kit feels like do you think you can sqt a keasley 300kg put on 2 ply kit and go 460,if you new anything about trn youd no 80%of the train we train with no kit with weights i suspect would snap you in half,youv not compeated you have no idea you dont know me ,you seem to be a real person as you are asking about joining feds join the bpc will be good to meet someone face to face who wants to slag me off or come down my gym and we will put some weight on your back and see how superbly and deep you squat as you obviosly know more than me.oh and yes i do take it personally as you chose to name me

SCG
11-06-2007, 10:50 AM
Bulldog I agree, you can't just put 2 ply kit on and expect a huge increase in your lifts. However if a lifter practices with the kit and is not able to take an unequipped squat of 300kg to well over 400kg with 2 ply kit then they're doing something wrong in their training.

If I can get 70kg to 80kg out of single ply kit and 2 metre knee wraps and a 90kg plus carryover from a low box on a middle weight Woman then surely a lifter with 2 ply suit, briefs and 2.5metre knee wraps should be able to get much more.

cuntos
11-06-2007, 12:00 PM
Dave 300k raw is not a measley squat!

Steve, I hope I can get 80k out of my new Centurion plus 2m wraps, once I can get the suit on that is. And if I got 90k + on top of my best low box squat I'd be well happy. Fingers crossed eh?

Rob Thomas
11-06-2007, 12:24 PM
It would have been interesting to see what the likes of Dale Norris would have done in double ply kit if he'd got used to it - he's done a very easy ass to grass with 340 totally raw - not even a belt or wraps.

Brian Irwin was the same at this year's BWLA 4 nations - he did an easy 320 very deep squat with just a belt on - very strong dude.

Hellspawn
11-06-2007, 01:40 PM
Dale has been invited to the Hirep Bash but due to the long bike ride he cant make it in time for the weigh in

Hellspawn
11-06-2007, 01:51 PM
the other problem was he would be down to the 90kg div by the time he got here and 56kg div by the time he got home

bulldog
11-06-2007, 09:27 PM
i used 300 kg as a weight people could relate to not what i do iv done 400kg in belt and wraps 430 in briefs and 370x5 belt and wraps i wissh you could get 100 kg out of kit i cant.benching tonight one of my lifters drug free 205 best bench in double ply put on a single ply and doubled 205 after a lot of work sets i dont think the gap is that big looking at single ply not as it used to be you could put a sqt suit in a sock,i think to many people quote double ply as something magical ,my work ethic the lads in my gymandy bolton and his lads ,dell etc all have a strong work ethic most of our work is done raw or belt wraps etc im just getting pissed of when people who dont no you and have never trained with you put it down to double ply kit,
i have a lot of respect for other feds big lifters like clive henry bwla is a strong guy but i dont believe he would get much more out of changing kit.look at tibor mazzores amd istvan arvai top ipf lifters moved to wpo new kit didnt make a big diff.
some of the way bench shirts are worn neck across delts or lower gives a big advantage but is not legal over here,a strong lifter is astrong lifter no matter what he wears.
stop bitching try things out i squatted 400 in old fashioned single ply kit not todays stuff,its not comparable but old records still get broken with new kit so what the sports evolved.put on doble ply kit if it adds 100kg to your sqt over your single ply i will buy it for you'
why is it not a 2 way road its always raw or single ply lifters that have a go at guys in other kit come and put it on and see what happens add 50 or 100kg to yor best sqt and then call an ambulance as you go down and down and oh im fucked cant get up

suffolkmike
11-06-2007, 09:58 PM
here here! well said.

Mr Kobra
11-06-2007, 10:44 PM
i used 300 kg as a weight people could relate to not what i do iv done 400kg in belt and wraps 430 in briefs and 370x5 belt and wraps i wissh you could get 100 kg out of kit i cant.benching tonight one of my lifters drug free 205 best bench in double ply put on a single ply and doubled 205 after a lot of work sets i dont think the gap is that big looking at single ply not as it used to be you could put a sqt suit in a sock,i think to many people quote double ply as something magical ,my work ethic the lads in my gymandy bolton and his lads ,dell etc all have a strong work ethic most of our work is done raw or belt wraps etc im just getting pissed of when people who dont no you and have never trained with you put it down to double ply kit,
i have a lot of respect for other feds big lifters like clive henry bwla is a strong guy but i dont believe he would get much more out of changing kit.look at tibor mazzores amd istvan arvai top ipf lifters moved to wpo new kit didnt make a big diff.
some of the way bench shirts are worn neck across delts or lower gives a big advantage but is not legal over here,a strong lifter is astrong lifter no matter what he wears.
stop bitching try things out i squatted 400 in old fashioned single ply kit not todays stuff,its not comparable but old records still get broken with new kit so what the sports evolved.put on doble ply kit if it adds 100kg to your sqt over your single ply i will buy it for you'
why is it not a 2 way road its always raw or single ply lifters that have a go at guys in other kit come and put it on and see what happens add 50 or 100kg to yor best sqt and then call an ambulance as you go down and down and oh im fucked cant get up

That only leaves one question: if double ply does not add to the lift over single ply equipment, why use it?

Dave Johnson
11-06-2007, 11:24 PM
Could you show me a video of you squatting 400 in belt and wraps please? I would love to see that as it would be amazing.

Like cobra said, why would a lifter wnt to were double ply then if it is not really any different to single ply?

are you saying that you are a better squatter than clive henry because he did a big squat in new kit yet you did 400 in old kit? If you are then I am sorry for doubting you.

cuntos
11-06-2007, 11:39 PM
I can vouch for Bulldog's ridiculously strong squatting abilities, having witnessed them first hand. Why don't you arrange to come down to Genesis on a day that he is squatting heavy and you can see for yourself?!

SCG
11-06-2007, 11:41 PM
Those are incredible lifts (I don't need to see a video)

However (and this is not a criticism, but a genuinely interested question) when many of the Americas are getting 140kg plus out of their kit and I've seen lifters in single ply get over 100kg, don't you think you should be getting a lot more?

van_halen
11-07-2007, 12:03 AM
Those are incredible lifts (I don't need to see a video)

However (and this is not a criticism, but a genuinely interested question) when many of the Americas are getting 140kg plus out of their kit and I've seen lifters in single ply get over 100kg, don't you think you should be getting a lot more?

Bloody hell! I wish I could get 100kg out of my single ply kit!

bulldog
11-07-2007, 12:17 AM
kobra yes dble ply can give an advantage but not as much as people like to make out but some big lifts done in new single ply not everyone gets a big boost as to use it well you need to be very explosive or it kills your lifting single ply is easier to master but as fed im in uses double so do i ,i suppose its a case of keeping up with the joneses lol i often do openers with no briefs and have been upto 430 to depth in briefs which you dont get same use out as a suit with straps also a lot of lifters arent strong enough to lock a weight out that they can get a touch with so single is easier to manipelate,the things the yanks do to shirts is mad and im glad we dont allow it here,mind you isuppose its a% thing if scott mend raww does 715 and shirted 1000 and a smaller guy 300lbs raw and shirted 400%is the same no i havent worked it out just a rough example look at dave wightman 310 single ply cant get on with double at least you lift and have a sensible question now
dave j yours is a loaded question obviously to cause shit between me and clive who as iv stated is a great lifter,iv stated what iv done and can do if you choos to doubt me fine but take up my last offer on the other thread and come and train with me ,there
are plenty of people on here that have and will back ,who can say that for you
scg yes some americans may be i cant speak for them as i said bench shirt makeup that sponsored athletes get are different than you can by also the style they where there shirts is a lot different than us,it is an art that we dont have as for sqt suits it takes me a couple of minutes to get into mine but it seems a lot of lighter lifters where them super tight and takes them 10 or 15 minutes ,same as shirts,bigger lifters dont seem to get on well with tight kit i dont i cant breath andy bolton only takes a couple of minutes to get in his,i dont enjoy full kit but its the playing field i compeat in im going to experiment with some ipf stuff to see how it goes,hows your wifes traing havent got to scilleys yet but will let you know when i do
i think you should lift where you are happy most of the good lifters here dont slag other feds or people of but offer help and advice it seems that people who have done little or nothing and not helped anyone have the most to say and run down others

Mr Kobra
11-07-2007, 01:21 AM
i think you should lift where you are happy most of the good lifters here dont slag other feds or people of but offer help and advice it seems that people who have done little or nothing and not helped anyone have the most to say and run down others

Agree 100%!

SCG
11-07-2007, 09:06 AM
hows your wifes traing havent got to scilleys yet but will let you know when i do



Marian's trainings going well - just back from IPF Worlds where she was very pleased with her lifting. She's now back to her usual body weight and about 90% of her pre baby lifts.

They've just finished filming an addidas commercial with Beckham etc over here so hopefully the Islands will get some good TV coverage - maybe remind you of what it's like get you back to the Scillies again

Lloyd
11-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Sorry Bulldog I can't find the video of your squat session it must have got deleted when I had to fix the computer. I have the session from the day before with Tom, Ian, Mike and I which is the one on youtube but I only have your deadlift session without kit. I will bring the camera down soon and get some more footage....

J Power
11-08-2007, 12:08 AM
Will you be giving a discount to him to stay at your B&B Then Steve ?
Rumour has it that it also has a good gym but no strong male lifters!

Ian "jabber" Rutherford
03-17-2008, 11:53 PM
god all you lot were going a bit weak at the knees and bending over backwards to welcome a "new member" that was funny reading all those replys. trying to make out you just wanted to help a fellow powerlifter. ha ha

curt
03-18-2008, 06:36 PM
god all you lot were going a bit weak at the knees and bending over backwards to welcome a "new member" that was funny reading all those replys. trying to make out you just wanted to help a fellow powerlifter. ha ha

WTF is with your picture.