145kg 3bd press

[Funky_monkey]

Decided to keep the bags on as last time it took 4 people 10mins to get one arm off. This is my 3rd of 4 sets using a single-ply rage-x. i went for (and hit) 150x3 for my 5th and final set. used a IWF band to keep the board in place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jBpA29Z45A

[cornelius parkin]

Aww no one replied:( so i will:) nice bench Yaman make sure you pause a little longer on the board and try tearing some of those bags away it makes it look like your wearing arms bands:rolleyes:

[Boar]

I loved the bag/block combo !!!!

just how tight is that shirt mate ?

and how long did it take to put on and how much to touch ??

[Icepick]

I loved the bag/block combo !!!!

just how tight is that shirt mate ?

and how long did it take to put on and how much to touch ??

That shirt there is ridiculously tight, and the worst thing is that he reckons he needs a size smaller when I think he can do with a bigger shirt that is going to allow him to hit comfortable reps in training because as it is now, it is either hit or miss, and I'm loosing count of the amount of times I've had to catch the bar from his neck.....
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9531/image021xm6.jpg

[Funky_monkey]

I loved the bag/block combo !!!!

just how tight is that shirt mate ?

and how long did it take to put on and how much to touch ??

thats actually a bag/band/block combo. on a good day it'll touch with 130 with the collar up and no belt on. 140 with the shirt seated, pulled down properly and a belt on top. The shirt is NOT too small, it goes on doesn't it? I reckon i just need to get stronger. Takes around 5mins to put on. If i take the bags off.... just ask icepick what happened the day that pic was taken. still got the scars. I'm getting used to the shirt, i hit 140 for a couple of singles in it after lots of heavy raw work.

It's nowhere near as tight as it was when i first got it. I love the feeling of a chinese burn behind my arms as i pull the shirt down.

[Icepick]

more ownage, funky's bench shirt blues...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3d_vEiILTk
haha, you gotta love it..

[Ben "tricky" Burgess]

more ownage, funky's bench shirt blues...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3d_vEiILTk
haha, you gotta love it..
nice but you really shoulda put a soundtrack like some John Lee Hooker or Muddy Waters that would have been bullit :p

[Funky_monkey]

You better find urself a spotter u can trust this friday.....

[Jim Nuttall]

oh my god! im booking u in to a free dissapline session at the nuttall corrections facility! so many things pushing my blood pressure up here! why have u got fukin plastic bags on still, try strapping the fukin board to your head next time mite nok some sense into you! why are u doing high board lock outs with a shirt on. i think u should stop ALL equipment use and actually start trying to get some strength! all the gear no idea!

[Icepick]

agree 100%, funky is just overly excited about lifting, he's actually just got himself a double denim shirt!!! he calls it his 'little treat'.....haha :D

[Jim Nuttall]

wats the fukin point on getting something that hard to get used to wen he cant bench 100! and this is to all thatr just buy kit for the sake as u think it will make u a better lifter- news flash folks it not gonna happen! so just cut the shit and try to get stronger fukin egits!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigman2001]

Couldn't agree with you more Jim. There is no "magic ingredient" in bench press other than hard work. Bench shirts only need to go on about 4 weeks out from a comp in order to hone the technique. In fact, I find that I actually lose strength when I train exclusively with a bench shirt. I still bench big weights raw before putting my shirt on.

Jim, I'm looking forward to seeing you press 300+ in the British Champs in July - give that Andy Bolton bloke a run for his money ;)

[cornelius parkin]

Now :D what did i tell you monkey about that double denim yoke you have coming i would send it back and spend the money on some food god knows you could do with some:mrgreen:

[Boar]

LOL, funky.........youve been framed.

the icepick seems to have saved your bacon numerous times,hope u return the favour !

[Martin Flett]

Lol at this thread. Better than Phil's Corner! Imo stay away from shirts until you can do at least 50% over bodyweight raw - unless you're a really chunky lad from Preston with massive thighs, of course.

[Boar]

unless you're a really chunky lad from Preston with massive thighs, of course.

LOL, massive thighs ? chunky ? preston ?

he sounds phat, not fat.

So, i can stay away from the shirt for a bit longer, what about concentrating on 2 board presses for a few weeks then get into the shirt for 4 weeks prior ?

[Funky_monkey]

Martin - i can do maybe 115-117.5 @ 82.5kg bodyweight, so around 149% of my bodyweight raw. Just need to get another 5kg on my raw bench.

Corn - i eat, but it never seems to stay in my body. Going to get a 2-ply rage-x and get rid of the inzer ultimate denim, so i have a 1 ply and 2 ply rage-x and no other bench shirts.

My goals at the moment are to hit 150 in a single-ply rage-x and to get 120kg bench raw.

[Funky_monkey]

LOL, funky.........youve been framed.

the icepick seems to have saved your bacon numerous times,hope u return the favour !

Going to let him struggle a little next time he manages to dump weights raw, make a quick phone call, set up my phone to record him.... THEN pull the weight off him.

[cornelius parkin]

Martin - i can do maybe 115-117.5 @ 82.5kg bodyweight, so around 149% of my bodyweight raw. Just need to get another 5kg on my raw bench.

Corn - i eat, but it never seems to stay in my body. Going to get a 2-ply rage-x and get rid of the inzer ultimate denim, so i have a 1 ply and 2 ply rage-x and no other bench shirts.

My goals at the moment are to hit 150 in a single-ply rage-x and to get 120kg bench raw.

I am only kidding with you mate;) but i think your were right forgetting about the denim thats really an experts shirt i find it tricky enough to use a fury let alone some thing like that.

[Funky_monkey]

The main reason is that the ultimate denim is actually made of canvas, so it's great at stopping. It's unlikely that i'm going to get 150kg to touch, AND i'm going to have to learn a new shirt. With the 2 ply rage-x at least it'll be a similar if not identical groove to the single ply

[Jim Nuttall]

why would you want a shirt that you cant touch in and wen u do touch your too weak to press it back up just stupidity! and bullshit you eat it wont stay on ur body theres a very simple answer to it all............... EAT MORE!

[Funky_monkey]

Selling the ultimate denim. Won't fit ur fat ass though. Anyone interested? Going to do 125 for 3 triples in the shirt on fridays, adding 5kg per week.

On a good day i'll get 200-250g protein and 500g carbs, as well as 100g fats, so 3,900kcals. Aiming to move up to 90s A.S.A.P, i can't seem to get any higher than 85kg.

[cornelius parkin]

carbs and fats are plenty high try upping your protien by 100 grams.

[cuntos]

On a good day i'll get 200-250g protein and 500g carbs, as well as 100g fats, so 3,900kcals.
Are you sure about that? That's A LOT of food for a 13 stone guy. I reckon you might be mistaken!

EG 500g carbs from rice would be around 650g uncooked dry weight. If it was oats it'd be close to two pounds in weight. If it was potatoes it'd be over six pounds in weight!!!!!

[Ben "tricky" Burgess]

Are you sure about that? That's A LOT of food for a 13 stone guy. I reckon you might be mistaken!

EG 500g carbs from rice would be around 650g uncooked dry weight. If it was oats it'd be close to two pounds in weight. If it was potatoes it'd be over six pounds in weight!!!!!

Im like 84kg and maintain on something like 300g Protein, 400g Carbs, 100g fats ~4000 cals, so i can belive Funkys calculations are right...I have a physical job though.

[Funky_monkey]

Cuntos - i don't think it's an exaggeration, but thats what i'd have on a GOOD day. Once or twice a week i'll have a crap day and only get in 150/300/80 or 2,520 kcals.
Today i've had - 5am - 100g noodles (dry weight) and 175g duck
8am - 50g protein powder, 1 pint milk, 150g pack of sweets
11am - 100g noodles (dry weight) and 175g duck
Slept from 11:30 to 6 so that's why i haven't eaten since then
Mum is coming home with lamb chops, so i might have a decent amount of rice with that.
Around 10ish i might have yoghurt, a pint of milk couple of left over chops.
Maybe 2 or 3 in the morning (i've just slept loads so i'll be up till late) I might have another pint of milk, probably some cheese, maybe a big bowl of cereal.

For some reason, the time of day i have my carbs doesn't make the slightest bit of difference. I can easily have 100g carbs at 3 in the morning every night and not notice the slightest bit of weight gain.

[Doc D]

Gotta second what Cornelius says about protein, esp. looking at your day's menu. In your position, I'd be looking at 250-300g of beef / turkey / chicken for 2-3 of the meals, a dozen or so eggs (chuck out half the yolks if you want), 70g protein powder in your drinks, and a couple of cans of tuna / salmon. Start off with 400g protein, then move up from there as required. I honestly believe that this will have a more beneficial effect than eating a bag of sweets!

[cornelius parkin]

Gotta second what Cornelius says about protein, esp. looking at your day's menu. In your position, I'd be looking at 250-300g of beef / turkey / chicken for 2-3 of the meals, a dozen or so eggs (chuck out half the yolks if you want), 70g protein powder in your drinks, and a couple of cans of tuna / salmon. Start off with 400g protein, then move up from there as required. I honestly believe that this will have a more beneficial effect than eating a bag of sweets!

400grams protien?! i all ways thought your the voice of reason doc d:eek: personally i cant see a natural 90kg athelete with 80kg of muscle mass absorbing that much but i fully agree monkeys diet need serious work.

Not trying to be funny mate as i had the same problem for a few months last year but your still doing it, crazy sleeping patterns aka staying up all night and sleeping in the day(when you have the chance not to do it) will really hold back both weight and power gains. I swear if you could just sleep every night from 12-6am or some thing you will make much better gains i REALLY believe dispite whatevery one tells you is what is holding you back!
Your eating the average mans meal plan there only maybe your eating two more meals as disgusting as it sounds make a concrete 4 meals per day where you eat the same thing and then leave the remainder for other healthy varied foods aka every day i all ways eat 50grams protien from eggs and all ways aim for 1kg of meat honestly if you have that concrete 250grams of protien from animal sources you can just top it up with some shakes.

[Doc D]

Heh heh... Dude wanna grow, dude gotta chow down on da protein. But this is just me: I tended to blub out when 'bulking' on too much carbohydrate, and tend to fare better on higher protein and moderate fats. Sed exempla docent...

[MattGriff]

Not ever worn a bench shirt myself yet, I was advised by a few guys NOT to get one and only use it for the last 3-4 weeks before competition (which I have never done yet, competed that is).

For me with the bench, the two other things that helped me out so much with my lifting were heavy close grip benches, not with a thumb with, nobody is that small, but with the arms so they brush your torso on the way down.
And the second, standing military press, I am upto 130kgs for 5 clean reps and 140 if I add the ol legs in a touch, my front delts are almost as strong as my chest now (probably are considering there is way less involvement in the mil press) , and it has done nothing but improve my shoulder stability and strength in the bench.

Eat, train, rest and be merry, sod a shirt, a shirt doesn't bench it for you! Surley you should train to lift maximum with no shirt, then you know you are strong.

[Martin Flett]

Agree up to a point, but once you get to a certain level the shirt lets you lift more - no question. I only get about 25 kilos at the moment and need to practice more, but some guys get double or triple that. The problem is you need to get to that certain level first, which is what some of the earlier posts have been saying. THEN you need to start in a loose shirt to work on technique and gradually get tighter and tighter for heavier singles.

[Funky_monkey]

Thanks for the advice matt - i do 3 sets of 5 close grip benches every friday with my index fingers touching the inner smooth part of the bar. On mondays i do 3 sets of standing military presses (60kg), and maybe a couple of sets of dumbell shoulder presses (35kg dumbells) too.

[Lloyd]

Martin - i can do maybe 115-117.5 @ 82.5kg bodyweight, so around 149% of my bodyweight raw. Just need to get another 5kg on my raw bench.



Ian 'cube' Humphries at 82.5kg can rep 135kg for 3 pretty easily raw and about 150kg for a single. He benches 200kg in a shirt. (I might be doing him a diservice and it might be more than this in all three)

Justin can also do this and more at 82.5kg body weight.

So try building up your raw strength first before trying the kit. I remember watching Ian bench 180kg for a double in an old loose shirt that he pulled on himself and in the 2005 BPC British Justin basically had to borrow loads of kit off people and still lifted massive. Its not about the kit its about strength. Bring on some raw competitions - although seeing Ian R benching 227.5kg raw maybe give it a few years!!

[Dave Wightman]

I would like to see a raw show in the BPC lifting calender. Just belt and wraps. Maybe around October/November time.

[Jim Nuttall]

but david the worlds are then!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe january as then its enough time to recover from shows and get ready for new ones!

[Dave Wightman]

You should be available then Nut!

[bulldog]

with a combined weight of 455kg is on my right jim the nut and on my left dave the great white lol