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Never-Satisfied
01-12-2007, 12:44 AM
I have been training bodybuilding style for the most part.

Was just wondering if I would have any hope at the powerliftng side of things?

Here are some raw lifts with good(not perfect) form.

Bodyweight = 53kg (at times of lift now about 54-55kg)
Deep/ATG squat = 105kg
Bench = 72.5kg
Deadlift = 140kg (knees locked out, shoulders back)


Won't be offended if you say stick to bodybuilding :)

Thanks guys

Neil Deighton
01-12-2007, 02:37 AM
Definately start powerlifting those lifts are pretty impressive at your bodyweight especially if you have been concentrating more on bodybuilding!

cornelius parkin
01-12-2007, 06:58 AM
If your over 5ft tall your crazyly under weight how tall are you?

Never-Satisfied
01-12-2007, 08:15 AM
5'4" I don't put weight on easily.


Thank you Neil. I wouldn't know were to start though, hah.

cornelius parkin
01-12-2007, 04:00 PM
Of course you have a hope not every one is strong when they start and your hardly weak for you weight,you should post up your training routine life style and diet and you should get a lot of help.

Never-Satisfied
01-12-2007, 06:44 PM
Right thanks for the post Parkin:

Here's is my training:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/m_1583467/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1604553


Diet is just 'see food eat it'. I eat lots of healthy foods as well as junk food

Boar
01-12-2007, 06:50 PM
lol, parkin !!

hi mate, keep up the lifting , they are a good start at your weight mate

Moz
01-12-2007, 07:15 PM
yeah thats good. 2.6 times your body weight DL is what i do ive training powerlifts for years

cornelius parkin
01-12-2007, 07:26 PM
lol, parkin !!


:p classic stuff(i made that post last night after a party that ended up with me fighting with bouncers in some southern hick club.....i am suprised it was as polite as it was:p )


OK mate i will just give you some suggestions because i have some time on my hands right now.
The see and eat diet seems good in theory but in reality you will end up eating too little or too much either way results will not be optimum.
I suggest 6 meals a day(liquid or food)30grams of protien with each meal should be the base line and then eat lots of carbs earlier in the day and after training and then fattier foods later(two reasons for this 1 if you eat fat early on you will feel full for a long time as it takes a long time to digest 2 its better to eat carbs earlier on when you need them)try that and then after 6 weeks slightly increase the protein until your eat a bucket load of protien(shakes dont count,any one can drink down 100grams of whey i mean meat such as steak and chicken you cant get enough of that).

Training first swap to pull push legs split if you want a 3 way split,you doing chest then the next day shoulders that doesnt make sense on that split you will over train and maybe get hurt.
Your reps are too high the occasional set with 15+reps is great especially 20 rep squats but what your doing looks like endurance training not size or power.
Personally i find the 3 way split effective but you cant do so many sets for it,your very light you want to gain weight you wont do that by over training.
I think this type of training would be good for you it utilises 2 times per week all body training 4 work outs per week only one working set with all ways the goal of increasing power.
www.intensemuscle.com is the website where the training is out layed also the diet plan is very easy to follow I KNOW that if you follow that routine and eat like they tell you gains will come.

Never-Satisfied
01-14-2007, 12:30 AM
Fab post.

To be honest happy with my training and it's fun for me what I do. I don't agree with overtraining if your recovery is good.

But I will look up the routine anyway - maybe tommorow after work. Going bed now.

But the diet advice I will take heed. Never heard that idea before. You are very right about fat's filling you up, will try and avoid them during day time in that case.

Thanks for taking your time out.



:p classic stuff(i made that post last night after a party that ended up with me fighting with bouncers in some southern hick club.....i am suprised it was as polite as it was:p )


OK mate i will just give you some suggestions because i have some time on my hands right now.
The see and eat diet seems good in theory but in reality you will end up eating too little or too much either way results will not be optimum.
I suggest 6 meals a day(liquid or food)30grams of protien with each meal should be the base line and then eat lots of carbs earlier in the day and after training and then fattier foods later(two reasons for this 1 if you eat fat early on you will feel full for a long time as it takes a long time to digest 2 its better to eat carbs earlier on when you need them)try that and then after 6 weeks slightly increase the protein until your eat a bucket load of protien(shakes dont count,any one can drink down 100grams of whey i mean meat such as steak and chicken you cant get enough of that).

Training first swap to pull push legs split if you want a 3 way split,you doing chest then the next day shoulders that doesnt make sense on that split you will over train and maybe get hurt.
Your reps are too high the occasional set with 15+reps is great especially 20 rep squats but what your doing looks like endurance training not size or power.
Personally i find the 3 way split effective but you cant do so many sets for it,your very light you want to gain weight you wont do that by over training.
I think this type of training would be good for you it utilises 2 times per week all body training 4 work outs per week only one working set with all ways the goal of increasing power.
www.intensemuscle.com is the website where the training is out layed also the diet plan is very easy to follow I KNOW that if you follow that routine and eat like they tell you gains will come.

cornelius parkin
01-14-2007, 06:45 PM
I don't agree with overtraining if your recovery is good.



That is the oddest comment i have heard in a while:confused: obviously you dont over train if you recover :p

Never-Satisfied
01-14-2007, 07:20 PM
That is the oddest comment i have heard in a while:confused: obviously you dont over train if you recover :p


Well I meant that if you recover well by means of lots of food and lots of rest then you don't need to worry about overtraining.

With my routine I don't feel overtrained.

Never-Satisfied
01-16-2007, 04:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftoUvpFfhew


Got a new PR on the squat

Carl
01-17-2007, 01:57 PM
nice one mate

cornelius parkin
01-17-2007, 10:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftoUvpFfhew


Got a new PR on the squat

You sir win the award for least hardcore video ever.......heres your insperation its a cloudy day in the suburbs theres a bar loaded next to mums laundry can you step up to the task while the adds are on during the simpsons:p

Great depth well done keep it up!

Boar
01-17-2007, 10:56 PM
you look remarkably like 'muscleman' who used to post on muscletalk , your gym is second only to my shed and ...3rd only to my shed and the temple gym.

jamwithtupac
01-17-2007, 11:22 PM
nice squat, dude.

Never-Satisfied
01-18-2007, 12:01 AM
Thanks for comments.

Would that lift pass at a meet?



I train at home because I can't afford to pay the gym prices here. So I payed a large sum which for rack, olympic weights and bench which will save me money in the long-run.

In the past I have been training when my mum puts up washing actually, hah.

cornelius parkin
01-18-2007, 01:07 AM
Thanks for comments.

Would that lift pass at a meet?





NO............its too deep:mrgreen:

Moz
01-20-2007, 09:16 AM
depths good for unequipped, thats how deep i go unequipped because i find it hard to put the stoppers on so i do a little bounce outta the bottom. when you start putting P/L equipment on (tight equipment) you dont get as much depth

were you wearing a belt?

Moz
01-21-2007, 09:43 AM
hey up mate, just seen your deadlift on youtube. Not a bad lift. gonna give you a little tip. before you start the lift roll the bar so its tight to your shins then arse down, chest high you almost wonna be in the bottom position of the squat. pull from there :)

jamwithtupac
01-21-2007, 11:10 AM
try deadlifting without straps, i dropped the straps because they're a pain to wrap around the bar everytime, plus use chalk, and dont stand on grass, I found it better to pull on a hard surface, the grass could be soft and would take away some deadlift power.

Never-Satisfied
01-21-2007, 08:09 PM
Thanks for the tips guys.


I don't own a weightlifting belt.

Never-Satisfied
01-21-2007, 10:30 PM
http://www.powerliftinguk.com/showthread.php?t=4150


Would that be a good programme for me to follow?

cuntos
01-22-2007, 09:42 AM
No it wouldn't! I'm sure we can sort you out with a good basic routine tonight...

Never-Satisfied
01-22-2007, 11:04 AM
Ok I would appreciate that.:)

any1uno
01-22-2007, 08:35 PM
Keep up the great work. Look forward to following your progress.

paul_richards
03-23-2007, 06:03 PM
I disagree with the "less carbs later". If you are looking to add weight then eat lots of carbs at all times. lots of carbs = full muscle glycogen which in turn spares protein being used for fuel. The fuller your muscles are with glycogen the better they work and the more you lift.

Also if you train later on then carbs are a must post workout, without carbs post workout then your recovery and gains will be comprismised.

I gain strength the quickest when I have carbs with every meal even before bed.

Studies show (lemon in particular) that to gain strength and muscle mass then 1.6g per KG is more than adequate. Up to 2g per KG can be useful when dieting.

so for a 55KG person 130g spread over 5 or 6 meals (20-25g per meal) should be more than adequate.

Paul

Never-Satisfied
03-23-2007, 06:32 PM
Thanks Paul.

I noticed last week I had a beans and toast. Later I felt muscles were filled up a bit- sounds silly but that's the point about the carbs and glycogen reserves.

Thanks for your thoughtful post.