New PB

[gerthebear]

my deadlift is my best lift. currently 200 @ 75k (i weighed 70 on the day). im currently sitting at 73.4 as of last night before training. i hit a new PB of 210 x 3 last night

the world teen 3 record is 207.5k so provided i do it on the day of nov 11th ill be sorted :)

heres the vid:

Ger 210 x 3 @ 75kgs (73.4 atm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBCddrTX1Lc

[gerthebear]

can a moderator please move this thread to Prgress and journals topic section and then delete this post. cheers. (im a dumbass)

[Rob Thomas]

Moved - and well done on the PB!

[gerthebear]

cheers rob

[veganlifter]

solid lifting man! I never bounce from the bottom like that due to being a pussy and afraid of fucking up my back, but that is awesome lifting for such a wee lad ;)

That record is yours!

[Alex Wheatman]

Thats some good lifting there mate. Think that the rocords in the bag and alot more:!:

Well done fella.

[ukmachine]

very impressive!

[limerick_lifter]

man i rembember watching you pull 200 at nationals this year...and it was slow to go up but that 210 just bloddy flew up well done ger!!!! ill be there to see you take the record!

[kyle]

good stuff ger,and i like the cris jenkins hair'do.or is it cris who has a gerthebear hair'do?

[gerthebear]

good stuff ger,and i like the cris jenkins hair'do.or is it cris who has a gerthebear hair'do?

haha you got it right the second time there kyle hahaha.

thanks for all the support lads. much appreciated

[Martin Flett]

Great lifting, mate.

[Ben "tricky" Burgess]

fuck! Awesome work Ger, well in mate.

[Joel Di Battista]

Awesome!

[cornelius parkin]

Nice hair cut i am sure CJ is flattered:p
You may want to pause those deadlifts instead of bouncing them as its much easier when you bounce them:)

[gerthebear]

Nice hair cut i am sure CJ is flattered:p
You may want to pause those deadlifts instead of bouncing them as its much easier when you bounce them:)

somehow had a feeling u wud say something along those lines CP


thanks for the support lads :D

[Hanley]

i like the cris jenkins hair'do.or is it cris who has a gerthebear hair'do?

Chris has the Ger do. But it was originally the Hanley do.

Aweomse pulling dude. I still think you'll be close to 3x bw!

[Phil R]

well done on pulls

[cuntos]

Well done Ger, you should beat the record easily and that's a big weight to be lifting at your age and bodyweight. Be careful about the double-bend of the knees though (take another look at the vid, your legs rebend a bit). I think you'll be okay on the day, but just beware!

CP is right about bouncing the deadlifts too. A paused double would've been much more impressive than the bounced triple, but either way you should get a new record. I reckon you ought to get triple bodyweight or above which will be wicked.

Incidentally, the BWLA British Under 18 deadlift record is 255kg @ 75k and the IPF Under 18 record at 75k is 270.5kg.

[gerthebear]

Well done Ger, you should beat the record easily and that's a big weight to be lifting at your age and bodyweight. Be careful about the double-bend of the knees though (take another look at the vid, your legs rebend a bit). I think you'll be okay on the day, but just beware!

CP is right about bouncing the deadlifts too. A paused double would've been much more impressive than the bounced triple, but either way you should get a new record. I reckon you ought to get triple bodyweight or above which will be wicked.

Incidentally, the BWLA British Under 18 deadlift record is 255kg @ 75k and the IPF Under 18 record at 75k is 270.5kg.


wasnt like i was playing basketball with it man. i woudl have been able to do 3 paused reps. many people in my club deadlift like this,plenty have going over 300 and ive adapted both ways of doing it. it hasnt affected my deadlift and im am pretty good off the floor, any failed deadlift of mien was from the knees up.

im aware of the IPF records, but not insinuating that these people were on roids or anything but can never be too sure with big freaky deadlifts liek that, very impressive. but i also see no reason i shud hit the same in a few years, i just wont be under 18 when i do it lol., tbh i hope to hit 250 by end of next year

Im three weeks out from my worlds, while i appreciate criticsm in my goal to become a better lifter, how i rep NOW is not going to affect it with two training weeks left, but thanks

[cooky]

well done ger, look forward to seeing you lift in kinsale. good luck

[cornelius parkin]

im aware of the IPF records, but not insinuating that these people were on roids or anything but can never be too sure with big freaky deadlifts liek that, very impressive. but i also see no reason i shud hit the same in a few years, i just wont be under 18 when i do it lol., tbh i hope to hit 250 by end of next year


:rolleyes: you do realise that guys in your fed are also on gear;) the drug tests prove it.
Bouncing is also bad for the spine as it sends shock waves into the back.

[cuntos]

Im three weeks out from my worlds, while i appreciate criticsm in my goal to become a better lifter, how i rep NOW is not going to affect it with two training weeks left, but thanks
Unless you injure yourself by bouncing your deadlifts of course... :rolleyes:

[gerthebear]

:rolleyes: you do realise that guys in your fed are also on gear;) the drug tests prove it.
Bouncing is also bad for the spine as it sends shock waves into the back.

well maybe they are cp, but thats nothing to do with me, so i dont know why yer pointing that one out.My point was merely in relaton to a massive deadlift in the IPF as opposed to a not so massive one in the WDFPF .but there has only ever been ONE positive test out of the gizzilion carried out by the IDFPA. the results are posted on the site

ive yet to have any back injuries doing my DL's that way, neither has anyone i know. i also DO pause my DL's.

i love your use of the word BOUNCE. tell me, how does 210kgs BOUNCE, they werent bumper plates. and yes while im sure there is a little rebound, im certainly not get much help by doing that.

Some Bodybuilders also 'bounce' their deadlifts in order to keep stress on the lower back muscles, why cant i build muscle by doing the same?
please dont reply with 'this isnt bodybuilding, its powerlifting', as im clearly aware of that.

[Chris Williams]

Ger, I don't think anyone meant any offense, they were just offering advice. That's the good thing about being able to post videos on a forum- other experienced lifters can give pointers.
Good luck with your contest.

[gerthebear]

Ger, I don't think anyone meant any offense, they were just offering advice. That's the good thing about being able to post videos on a forum- other experienced lifters can give pointers.
Good luck with your contest.

i didnt take offence. i was merely stating my point of view like he guys were. thats the whole point of a forum, i certainly hope they didnt take offence either,

cheers chris, ill do my best:mrgreen:

[tom]

i love your use of the word BOUNCE. tell me, how does 210kgs BOUNCE, they werent bumper plates. and yes while im sure there is a little rebound, im certainly not get much help by doing that.




check newtons 3rd law of motion out mate (action/reaction), I can assure you your getting quite a lot of help out of that rebound, its basic physics.
anyway strong lifting all the same

[gerthebear]

check newtons 3rd law of motion out mate (action/reaction), I can assure you your getting quite a lot of help out of that rebound, its basic physics.
anyway strong lifting all the same

respect for bringing physics into it and pointing out newton but i will still stand by my original post, i said i got a little help, but i will still say not alot.
im Good off the floor in deadlifts, the top end is the hardest bit or me. i cud probably pull 230 o my knee and not lock it out.

[cuntos]

I have known of guys getting injured bouncing their deadlifts, but let's not talk about injuries this close to a comp! If you like we can discuss this a bit AFTER your comp as I will be there helping Mark.

[Icepick]

probably pull 230 o my knee and not lock it out.

if you can pull 210 for 3 paused,you will be pull 230...you cant compare the lockouts from the bounced and the paused motion,as you will be coming up with more speed.

[gerthebear]

I have known of guys getting injured bouncing their deadlifts, but let's not talk about injuries this close to a comp! If you like we can discuss this a bit AFTER your comp as I will be there helping Mark.

my point exactly, well i look forward to seeing you there.

and icepick, even CP has pointed out in another post and i agree 100%, reps have nothing to do with max singles in my expirenence (sp)

my goal is 220 so thats all im worried about haha

[Joel Di Battista]

if you can pull 210 for 3 paused
Really wish that was true mate!

[Hanley]

I have known of guys getting injured bouncing their deadlifts.


I know fair few guys who have gotten injured while pausing their pulls too. What does this tell you.. it's very hard to clarify whether one is more dangerous than the other.

As for shock waves down the back.. I've heard the same criticism towards box squats, buts as I understand it it's a case of an inability to remain tight and keep tension and this results in the transfer of the load onto skeletal tissues as opposed to muscular ones and this causes the injury.

Also, I don't for one second believe that drug abuse is as widespread in the WDFPF as people make it out to be for 2 reasons, there's not alot of positive tests at all and the general standard of lifting is not indicative of performance enhancing substances being utilised.

[Hanley]

if you can pull 210 for 3 paused,you will be pull 230...you cant compare the lockouts from the bounced and the paused motion,as you will be coming up with more speed.

He didn't make that comparison. He said that once the bar gets TO his kness he begins to struggle. Not that getting it to his kness is the problem. Therefore it's totally plausible that 230 could come up to his kness but no further.

[Icepick]

Really wish that was true mate!

well have you attempted 230 recently

[Icepick]

the general standard of lifting is not indicative of performance enhancing substances being utilised.

hmmm,maybe the standard of the lifting is just below par.

[cornelius parkin]

I know fair few guys who have gotten injured while pausing their pulls too. What does this tell you.. it's very hard to clarify whether one is more dangerous than the other.

As for shock waves down the back.. I've heard the same criticism towards box squats, buts as I understand it it's a case of an inability to remain tight and keep tension and this results in the transfer of the load onto skeletal tissues as opposed to muscular ones and this causes the injury.

Also, I don't for one second believe that drug abuse is as widespread in the WDFPF as people make it out to be for 2 reasons, there's not alot of positive tests at all and the general standard of lifting is not indicative of performance enhancing substances being utilised.

1)bouncing deadlifts does send shock waves into your back which is bad no research needed;)
have you every seen an olympic lifter drop a weight it bounces like 5ft in the air so imagine how much extra help your getting bouncing your pulls
2)box squats may be if your dropping onto the box which no one does with a large weight
3):p just cause your a weakling doesnt mean you dont take drugs,drugs dont = power or muscle


Look you two are strong lads and you will do well but for the love of god listen to the other dudes when they give you advice instead of argueing with them,hell i know nothing about powerlifting so if i get told some thing is wrong i change it!
Bouncing is wrong it doesnt matter what time or how long till your meet fix that shit before you get hurt.

[garry bamsey]

Guys bouncing can give you injuries and a false sense of weight try and do all dl with pauses doing them strict in gym will reflect on platform if you want to increase your pb do fast dl from floor 50% of max and do rack pulls for finishing and stand on a two inch platform to help pull from floor remember dl are the hardest to increase and it takes years to increase small amounts this when you need to keep at it and do special execises to build the complete pull needed to pull big as CP said listen to the experiance im sure Andy will give the same advice and hes the best puller in the World

[gerthebear]

1)bouncing deadlifts does send shock waves into your back which is bad no research needed;)
have you every seen an olympic lifter drop a weight it bounces like 5ft in the air so imagine how much extra help your getting bouncing your pulls
2)box squats may be if your dropping onto the box which no one does with a large weight
3):p just cause your a weakling doesnt mean you dont take drugs,drugs dont = power or muscle


Look you two are strong lads and you will do well but for the love of god listen to the other dudes when they give you advice instead of argueing with them,hell i know nothing about powerlifting so if i get told some thing is wrong i change it!
Bouncing is wrong it doesnt matter what time or how long till your meet fix that shit before you get hurt.


Olympic lifter use bumper plates which bounce SIGNIFICANTLY more. and CP i NEVER said i WASNT looking for advice, i pointed that out in a previous post that i appreciated the help and i had no disregard for what was said, it was jus blatantly put across so i put my points back.

ive wished you alot of luck and encouraged you in the past cp, im not asking of it in return but all your post consited of was a point about my hair and that i dont pause my deadlifts.

im glad people have taken the time to point out things and i NEVER do not listn to advice. you can say bouncing is bad all you want but i know plenty of guys deading over 300k and in training they train this way.

all i was doing was posting a video of my progress 3 weeks out.big mistake obviously if people are gettng the wrong idea of my points.

garry i do train speed deads,rack pulls and off a crate.has worked like a charm

[cornelius parkin]

Bear please to talk your friend Hanley as i talked to him and told him my opinion that you could easly pull at least 30kg more if you worked on a few things:) i certaintly never put you down as your easly the best light weight junior in Ireland.

Just cause a dude pulls 300kg doesnt mean he knows any thing about training or pulling for that matter some people such as my self are just built that way and can easly pull that kind of weight around so i am just saying dont think you need to follow what they are doing.

All the best in your worlds to you and Hanley get a couple of gold medals for Ireland and may be a best junior or teen award to go with it;)

[gerthebear]

Bear please to talk your friend Hanley as i talked to him and told him my opinion that you could easly pull at least 30kg more if you worked on a few things:) i certaintly never put you down as your easly the best light weight junior in Ireland.

Just cause a dude pulls 300kg doesnt mean he knows any thing about training or pulling for that matter some people such as my self are just built that way and can easly pull that kind of weight around so i am just saying dont think you need to follow what they are doing.

All the best in your worlds to you and Hanley get a couple of gold medals for Ireland and may be a best junior or teen award to go with it;)

haha well im certainly not THAT, but thanks man. ill get my act together after the worlds. i want to be a big puller, ive the long arms for it.

like i said, i wasnt disregarding the advice, all of it is welcome and appreciated

[Hanley]

Guys bouncing can give you injuries and a false sense of weight try and do all dl with pauses

If anyone had actually asked me then they would know that I do in fact pause all my reps. Regardless of whether it's a warm up or max. Personal choice. Not saying I'm right or wrong.

[garry bamsey]

Guys best of luck in the worlds the more comps you do the better you become be strong:D

[gerthebear]

will do, same with you garry

[GasHead788]

Good luck Ger, do us under 80kgs proud. I'm 19 years old only been doin powerlifting routines for 2 months now, fucking love it :mrgreen:

Feel free to check out my journal "newcomer to westside" and comment.