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Justin Hurley
10-13-2006, 11:14 PM
By Marc Bartley

For www.EliteFTS.com (http://www.elitefts.com/)

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Fat is where it's at!

We have to go way back to get some understanding on this one.
Back in 2000, when we were skeletons and I was almost ripped, Adipose had just sold his gym and was going for his—literally—all for broke, make it or break it, in powerlifiting. Now, in order to complete his master plan, he had to dissolve all ties. I know this is silly, but this is how the man thinks.

To do this and break the ties that bind with his training partners at the time, he got mad one day after we decided to start training without him. He used this episode to make his great escape from commercial gym hell (in his bipolar brain) and train at his house. I later named this the “Gay-rage.”

With total separation, he sought Louie's advice on getting better. Louie told him this wasn't bodybuilding, and for his frame, he should weigh 300 plus. I don't think Louie ever meant the 375 or whatever he calls himself. But off he went, cutting the number of meals but increasing the crappiness of the meals. After lots of Dove bars and you name it, he had ballooned to over 300 quickly.

We have always been highly competitive so as not to be out done in powerlifting or anything. So I began my diet of Little Debbie's, Snickers, and Reese cups. Put it this way—the documentary, SuperSize Me, ain't got shit on me from back then. On one side of my bed (and this is no joke), there were plastic wrappers from cakes and candy at least a foot and a half high. That’s the honest truth. We weren't talking for about a year and a half, so this was all second hand and you know how that gets twisted. We would send jokes back and forth. I called his place the “Gay-rage” and he called the gym, Total Failure (it was Total Gym at the time minus Chuck Norris and all that money).

So after the first six months, I was up to 220 or so. Fat but not too sloppy yet. Six months later with the help of Wendy's, Burger King, Chick-Fil-A, and many more cookies and cakes, I got up to 240. I was nice and sloppy, but my body caught up with some muscle (about 8 lbs or so), and it wasn't too bad then. My lifts kept going up so I continued my blistering weight gain. Six more months later with lots of heavy breathing, I was up to 260. By this time, we had all made up (isn't that sweet) and were training together again. We had all had some good successes so why stop there, I thought? Why be in the middle of a weight class when you can be at the end of it? 275 or bust!

Well 275 came and went over the next year or so after I added in Taco Bell and Moose Tracks ice cream (a delightful concoction of vanilla ice cream, fudge tracks like oil reserves in the ground, and mini peanut butter cups). Oh, I must thank Nabisco for Double Stuff Oreos and Nutter Butter Bars. Thank god I was adding muscle as I went. I think that was my body's reaction to try and comb at this giant fatness I was working on. I busted 275 easily in 2003, and for some reason, 285–290 was my sticking point for about one year and a half. Then, I figured what the f$*?? Go for the record. Break 300. 300 lbs was the hardest. I continued with the usual, but I needed a little more. I added fast food twice a day (Hardee’s came out with their low carb breakfast bowl—bacon, sausage, eggs, and cheese. All the food groups were covered. I think they cook it with liposuctioned fat asses.)

So at 300, the chairs in my gym starting bending, and I think I was close to getting an oxygen tank. My stomach stuck out from under both a 2XL and 3XL shirt, and my shorts began to slip further down my gigantic ass, showing my dirty cheeks ‘cause wiping thoroughly with alligator arms is almost impossible.

In order not to be a Super with my good friend and great influence, Don, I had to start cleaning up my act and go back to my old, clean days of eating and actually doing some cardio (sled work). I am back down to 280, reluctantly, but I feel better. I’m only allowed to eat out and have sweets once a week. My new thing is TGIFriday's. They have giant Oreo cookies with vanilla ice cream filling (mmm…mmm...filling). They give you caramel and fudge packs to put on them. Brilliant!! I get it all in one!
That's my story of reaching your ultimate powerlifting goals and knocking about three or four years off your life in the process. But, if you can't enjoy yourself, then why bother.

Marc Bartley is one of the premier 275 lbs lifters in the world and a WPO competitor. At the 2005 Arnold Classic, he squatted a huge 1058 lbs. Marc has been competing in powerlifting for six years and has used the IPA, APF, USAPL, and WPO to showcase his strength. He currently owns Total Gym in South Carolina. Despite his appearance, Marc is a very well-educated man and holds two degrees from the University of South Carolina—one in finance and one in economics. His best lifts include a 1058 squat, 700 bench, and 722 deadlift. His best total to date is 2463 lbs.

Visit his website at www.SouthCarolinaBarbell.com (http://www.southcarolinabarbell.com/)

Justin Hurley
10-13-2006, 11:14 PM
Fat is where it's at!


LOL...I like it.

Matt M
10-14-2006, 10:21 AM
Made me feel quite sick TBH :icon_gre:

cornelius parkin
10-14-2006, 02:04 PM
Wow i like how they say how he has a degree and all trying to make him sound like hes smart:rolleyes: what a complete fool he could have taken his weight up that high in a far heathier way and probably avoided knocking the 10+years of his life(3 or 4 years my ass:p )if he had taken longer and didnt eat fast food,personally i have tried gaining weight via fast food and it works for a while but then gains stagnate and you feel very shitty(my highest body weight was 230lb and i felt very shitty i achieved this via eating my normal foods plus adding in crap ontop of every meal,i easly gained 3-5lb a week for a month but i felt so bad i could hardly breath between sets).
I wish powerlifting would stop condoning this bull shit and that the guys would stop thinking gaining weight has to be so much fun and do what body builders do and get out the rice chicken and nuts(made in germany by marcus ruhl is great for this when he lists the foods he eats per day which include 1kg of white rice,dont tell me any one will not grow on 800grams of carbs purely from the rice they eat).
Also i love when people say clean food doesnt have enough calories this is shit for two reasons one)it does 100grams of nuts has 600cals and 2)once you get in the habit of eating clean you can eat 8-10times a day easly as the food is assimilated very quickly.
If my goal was too get as heavy as possible i would follow Jay Cutlers plan 1000grams carbs 500grams protien and then some fat do that for 6 months religiously and i am sure the gains would be FAR better:) .

Doc D
10-14-2006, 05:18 PM
made in germany by marcus ruhl is great for this when he lists the foods he eats per day which include 1kg of white rice,dont tell me any one will not grow on 800grams of carbs purely from the rice they eat

Must be a German thing... when I was in Germany back in 1993 (peak of the high-carb era), my training partner (who was 16 at the time) had this idea that he had to eat obscene amounts of carbs at every meal. I have never witnessed such dedication in choking down mountains of unflavoured boiled rice at every meal... But what I remember most was his 300g of oats for breakfast. Not porridge: just unflavoured, uncooked oats with some milk on top. Dedication or fanaticism: you decide!

As for weight... back then, I ate my way up to 107kg (when I was 20-21), and I'll never go there again. Nowadays, if I'm getting close to 100kg, I'm too fat and I start losing mobility. For my purposes, excessive bodyweight is not a worthwhile sacrifice.

cornelius parkin
10-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Must be a German thing... when I was in Germany back in 1993 (peak of the high-carb era), my training partner (who was 16 at the time) had this idea that he had to eat obscene amounts of carbs at every meal. I have never witnessed such dedication in choking down mountains of unflavoured boiled rice at every meal
Germans just are generally huge,i am from Swizerland and there like in Germany many people love bb and there are a lot of huge guys walking around!
300grams of oats raw however would destroy my stomach for the day i would stink the place up:mrgreen:
Perhaps i will attempt to go heavy next year it depends on what direction life takes me(university or not)and if i do go heavy there is no chance in hell i would take the fast food route:rolleyes:

Matt M
10-14-2006, 06:07 PM
Also i love when people say clean food doesnt have enough calories this is shit

Yes it's a totally stupid statement, clean food and crap have exacltly the same calories, if the macronutrient ratio are the same.


300g of oats! That must take some eating?

I dont think eating has to be of the 'plain boiled rice' variety (which I do not actually think is very healthy TBH, too much rice is not that good for you), but the other extreme utilised by the guy in the article is just plain stupid.

Did his lifts go up in proportion with his weight?

I'd be pissed off if my weight went up by 50%, but my lifts only 20%, that would make me weaker pound for pound.

Icepick
10-14-2006, 06:41 PM
well tbh you have to find a balance,I think most will struggle to eat again in 2-3 hrs or so after eating 300g of oats in one sitting,all for what,1k calories which can be found in a nice flapjack that will allow you to continue eating without feeling bloated.

Justin Hurley
10-14-2006, 07:50 PM
Marc Bartley is a very smart guy. He is also a really nice fella.

Weight gain is not proportional to strength gain, hence why we use the Reshel / Wilks etc.

I can't gain weight on clean food, my metabolism is too fast, I have to eat shit.

gerthebear
10-14-2006, 08:23 PM
Germans just are generally huge,i am from Swizerland
300grams of oats raw however would destroy my stomach for the day i would stink the place up:mrgreen:
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dude i thought u were from the states??

and yeh, with great size comes great smelliness

cornelius parkin
10-14-2006, 08:53 PM
Marc Bartley is a very smart guy. He is also a really nice fella.

Weight gain is not proportional to strength gain, hence why we use the Reshel / Wilks etc.

I can't gain weight on clean food, my metabolism is too fast, I have to eat shit.

Of course i didnt mean hes a dumb guy hell i dont even know who he is let alone met him i just dont like how they make it sound like its a smart thing to do because of the fact that hes so smart:confused: or may be that was only the impression i got.

I remember you saying this before Justin out of intrest how much food do you eat are you a big eater and do you work in a very physically exhausting job i am just used to hearing that statement about having a fast metabolism but then the guy is eating about 3k per day:icon_puz:


dude i thought u were from the states??

and yeh, with great size comes great smelliness

Born in America but have swiss/irish passports


well tbh you have to find a balance,I think most will struggle to eat again in 2-3 hrs or so after eating 300g of oats in one sitting,all for what,1k calories which can be found in a nice flapjack that will allow you to continue eating without feeling bloated.

:confused: what sort of flap jack contains 1k?The most calories i have ever seen in a massive flap jack is 500cals must be a JUMBO flapjack



I'd be pissed off if my weight went up by 50%, but my lifts only 20%, that would make me weaker pound for pound.

I bet you wouldnt be if it meant more muscle mass i wouldnt complain any way:)

limerick_lifter
10-14-2006, 09:06 PM
i feel a new tshirt coming on

"Fat is where its at"

www.powerliftinguk.co.uk



I like it!

Justin Hurley
10-14-2006, 09:48 PM
I eat about 5-6kcals a day and my weight doesn't budge. I do near enough fuck all cardio and spend a lot of the day sitting on my ass, eating and resting.

I met Marc in Helsinki, very switched on fella. I noticed he moved up from the heavyweights to 140kg superheavyweights in the WPO this year, but only saw this article the other day...LOL

"Fat is where it's at baby!!!"

I'm stronger fat than lean, there are multiple reasons for this.

cornelius parkin
10-14-2006, 10:12 PM
I eat about 5-6kcals a day and my weight doesn't budge. I do near enough fuck all cardio and spend a lot of the day sitting on my ass, eating and resting.

I met Marc in Helsinki, very switched on fella. I noticed he moved up from the heavyweights to 140kg superheavyweights in the WPO this year, but only saw this article the other day...LOL

"Fat is where it's at baby!!!"

I'm stronger fat than lean, there are multiple reasons for this.

Wow thats a shocking amount,have you ever had your tyroid checked out :confused: couldnt that be due to an over active tyroid gland?
Or maybe i have an underactive tyroid because i can gain weight on 3-4k.

Justin Hurley
10-14-2006, 11:17 PM
Yeah, it's a little high, my mother had half her thyroid removed when she was young so maybe I have the genetics.
I am a human radiator though, constantly fucking boiling. I'm sure I throw off Kcals that way.

Hanley
10-15-2006, 01:02 AM
Fat is where it's at.. I like it.

This is more my style tho!

http://www.coloradopsycho.com/I_Beat_Anorexia_T-Shirt.jpg

Doc D
10-15-2006, 11:46 AM
Did his lifts go up in proportion with his weight?


Yes - he went from squatting around 60kg to 200kg as BW went from around 70 to 100kg (in the 9 months that we trained together) - although I should note that he was very much a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter. But he was artificially light and weak from the crap advice that he had received to that point, and he had extraordinary discipline and genetics (within a couple of years he placed well in regional and national shows and even graced the FIBO main stage in 1998, posing down with Schlierkamp et al.) Great bloke too.

Joel Di Battista
10-15-2006, 07:09 PM
I eat about 5-6kcals a day and my weight doesn't budge. I do near enough fuck all cardio and spend a lot of the day sitting on my ass, eating and resting.
Bloody hell. I must have the metabolism of a hibernating racoon. Eating 2.5k cals a day and I can't loose any weight. :(

Phil E
10-15-2006, 07:18 PM
How much difference do steroids make to your base metabolic rate?

Matt M
10-15-2006, 08:24 PM
I bet you wouldnt be if it meant more muscle mass i wouldnt complain any way:)

I would actually, I like being strong for my weight, and would not like to look stronger than I am. I like still being able to chin and dip with added weight, makes me laugh when BB's say they cant chin at an off season 290, as they are too heavy, bollocks, too weak is what they should say.

I see guys, (normally black, due to good genetics), who look like they could bench a fucking ton, but cant even do a single with 140, that to me is shit, they may be happy to be in it for pure looks, but I could not live with that.

Steroids do not alter your metabolism as such, but if you gain more muscle, your metabolism will increase.

Justin's problem is his legs and arse are so huge, that they burn 4000k cals all by them selves :D ; (you know I'm only jealous mate ;) )

cornelius parkin
10-15-2006, 08:38 PM
I see guys, (normally black, due to good genetics), who look like they could bench a fucking ton, but cant even do a single with 140, that to me is shit, they may be happy to be in it for pure looks, but I could not live with that.


Actually i know what you mean theres a black dude in my town and his arms are fucking huge so is his whole upper body(legs are sticks:icon_ton: )and he does ok in regional shows but he struggles like fuck with 140kg on the bench:rolleyes: which looks very weak when his arms are over 20 inches,hes all ways shredded though so perhaps that effects it i dont know.

Matt M
10-15-2006, 08:45 PM
I find it annoying but I am just envious, I have seen guys, (black guys, but this is not a racist thread :) ), and commented at how good they were looking, only to be told they had not trained in 6 months! Makes me sick :p

Also we went to Jamacia a few years back, and the amount of good arms and delts was amazing, and I am 100% sure these guys did not train, it is just their genetics.

That is why I focus on being strong, as I cant be big, :( :p

Joel Di Battista
10-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Guys, there was a bloke in my gym today who looked MASSIVE. His arms anyway. He then proceeded to do 40kg seated militaries in the Smith machine.

Matt M
10-18-2006, 11:25 PM
Guys, there was a bloke in my gym today who looked MASSIVE. His arms anyway. He then proceeded to do 40kg seated militaries in the Smith machine.

I had one of those too, he also did some shugs on a machine with about 20kg per side, and his traps and back were huge and ripped, and he did not do lots of sets, or work hard at all.

This is how he always trains, it makes me wonder how good he could look if he actually broke a sweat?

cornelius parkin
10-19-2006, 12:06 AM
Guys, there was a bloke in my gym today who looked MASSIVE. His arms anyway. He then proceeded to do 40kg seated militaries in the Smith machine.

You dont need heavy weight to build muscle:) its about working the muscle fibers through,if it was all about weight powerlifters would be the biggest but they are not BB are and most of them train very light relative to their size:icon_mel:

Matt M
10-19-2006, 12:18 AM
You dont need heavy weight to build muscle:) its about working the muscle fibers through,if it was all about weight powerlifters would be the biggest but they are not BB are and most of them train very light relative to their size:icon_mel:

That is true, to a point, but the guy I am refering too, was not working shit, yet still looked the nuts, :confused:

He must have super sensitive fibers, which get super stimulated with some 40kgx6 machine shugs, :p

cornelius parkin
10-19-2006, 12:29 AM
That is true, to a point, but the guy I am refering too, was not working shit, yet still looked the nuts, :confused:

He must have super sensitive fibers, which get super stimulated with some 40kgx6 machine shugs, :p

Lucky SOB:mad: he prob has a very good diet plan:mrgreen:

Matt M
10-19-2006, 12:53 AM
Lucky SOB:mad: he prob has a very good diet plan:mrgreen:

I dont know him well, and have no idea about his diet, but I would put money on it not being very good.

I think he is probably a bit of a Vince Taylor, eats crap, trains poorly, yet grows like mad and looks great.

This guy has competed before too, and did well, so he is at a pretty good standard.

Joel Di Battista
10-19-2006, 05:28 PM
You dont need heavy weight to build muscle:) its about working the muscle fibers through,if it was all about weight powerlifters would be the biggest but they are not BB are and most of them train very light relative to their size:icon_mel:
Hmmm, I tell you what, if I trained like that I wouldn't go anywhere. I dare say this guy is one of the chaps with blessed genetics that Matt seen walking around Jamacia.

Doc D
10-19-2006, 05:44 PM
I dont know him well, and have no idea about his diet, but I would put money on it not being very good.


I suspect that Cornelius was also alluding surreptitiously to the chap's supplementary regimen...

Matt M
10-19-2006, 11:02 PM
If by supplements, you mean AAS, he's def on, but probably not huge amounts. If he was, I would have been told, as I know his supplement seller ;)

I have access to, and the finances, to take 10g per week if I chose, but I know that it would not make me a good BB.

With BB'ing, genetics are where it is at IMO.

Manimal
10-28-2006, 09:17 AM
i Fell terrible if i eat crappy foods. I cant imagine the strain on your heart that putting that amount of weight on would cause!

TEAM_PAPUA
11-01-2006, 08:14 AM
too much rice is not that good for you)

but bruce lee was awesome :mrgreen: