opinions wanted"!!!!"

[big ash]

hi guys ive bin training for about 9 months seriouisly diet could do with a bit of help and i just turned 17 years old.

and was wondering who u guys think i would do in a powerlifting competition with these stats

180kg deadlift for 2 reps so maybe 185kg for 1
110kg bench for 1 reps
and about a 140kg squat for 1 rep

cheers ash

[Matt M]

Welcome to the site.

How much do you weigh?

[big ash]

i weigh about 92 kg but if the classes are done in weight ive got no chance but if there in age then maybe????

[Matt M]

They are done in both mate.

[Pork Pie]

My advice would be to attend a few meets just to get the lie of the land, and then enter at the first opportunity.

Competing is addictive and you will find yourself looking forward to future meets where you can renew rivalries and smash through pb's.

[big ash]

ok cheers guys well does anyone no a number or a website or club or anything i can get hold of for information or can you guys give me some info on past results or records etc ???/

[Matt M]

Go to the links page on this site, it has emails for all the feds.

[gerthebear]

hey man. i reckon that my fed has the best facilties for teens. it allows teens to compete either raw or equipped seperately. most other feds do not seperate. the link for the british fed is

BDFPA (www.bdfpa.co.uk)

you would compete @ 90k if u lost the 2k and with a bit more training you would be up there.

best of luck in the training

[Pork Pie]

You'd also be the only lifter of your age and size in the competition and you'd also get a world record on every lift. Forget the BDFPA, go for the BWLA one instead if you want to be drug tested - at least there'll be more lifters than officials there and you won't win some tin pot world record on every lift!

You've got to see the funny side of that:p :p :p

My own Fed isn't any better I should add:icon_ton:

[Carl]

exact same lifts as me mate and at 17, but im 20kg heavier :| ive been looking at the bdfpa aswell, looked at the bwla but i think i prefer the bdfpa

[GOE1988]

uknowit, thats the first kinda right and constructive comment ive evr seen u post keep it up!

[big ash]

ok thanks guys ill have a ring around for info and ill keep ya posted on what ill do! does anyone no what the costs are ?? for a meet?? :confused:

[gerthebear]

You'd also be the only lifter of your age and size in the competition and you'd also get a world record on every lift. Forget the BDFPA, go for the BWLA one instead if you want to be drug tested - at least there'll be more lifters than officials there and you won't win some tin pot world record on every lift!

have you competeed in the wdfpf?
i have and 10% of lifters get tested @ comps. FACT

dude your new to the site, dont take advice from ukownit. trust me, ive read hsi posts haha

[cornelius parkin]

You'd also be the only lifter of your age and size in the competition and you'd also get a world record on every lift. Forget the BDFPA, go for the BWLA one instead if you want to be drug tested - at least there'll be more lifters than officials there and you won't win some tin pot world record on every lift!

Agreed with you there even if you are a complete twat at least you have half a brain:)
Tested lifters should go to the IPF and stay there as its the highest level of competion,if you want to go untested and use heavier suits go to GPC as there is very strict judging AT international events(some times local judging is very poor).
IDFPA is a complete joke because every one can break records:rolleyes: and then the people who do the records think they are first class atheletes and among the strongest in the world or some thing which REALLY is not the case:p

[Hanley]

Agreed with you there even if you are a complete twat at least you have half a brain:)
Tested lifters should go to the IPF and stay there as its the highest level of competion,if you want to go untested and use heavier suits go to GPC as there is very strict judging AT international events(some times local judging is very poor).
IDFPA is a complete joke because every one can break records:rolleyes: and then the people who do the records think they are first class atheletes and among the strongest in the world or some thing which REALLY is not the case:p

:o so you're saying i'm not world class... *tear*!! hahahahaha

If you want to compete against drug free guys then stay away from the IPF, I personally don't give a shit what anyone's taking once they don't lift in feds that actually enforce drug testing.

Oh and btw my lifts were only a bit better than yours when i did my first comp at 19 and 90kg in april. jsut dive in the deepend, you won't look back.

[cornelius parkin]

:o so you're saying i'm not world class... *tear*!! hahahahaha

If you want to compete against drug free guys then stay away from the IPF, I personally don't give a shit what anyone's taking once they don't lift in feds that actually enforce drug testing.

Oh and btw my lifts were only a bit better than yours when i did my first comp at 19 and 90kg in april. jsut dive in the deepend, you won't look back.

nah bro your very strong so is gerthebear thats not the point i just thought it was laughable how even my little brother broke a world record and 3 euro records:icon_mel: and every second lift was a record :confused: i like your fed as far as it is very user friendly with the raw division i just have a problem with the constant record breaking:rolleyes:

[Carl]

nah bro your very strong so is gerthebear thats not the point i just thought it was laughable how even my little brother broke a world record and 3 euro records:icon_mel: and every second lift was a record :confused: i like your fed as far as it is very user friendly with the raw division i just have a problem with the constant record breaking:rolleyes:

well, surely once people start going with that fed then the records will be higher? and participation in the sport will increase. If your a new lifter who isnt particularly strong like me, would you want to go to a federation where you could acctually win something or one where you need to be a machine to compete? I think the smaller feds are great stepping stones to larger feds

[Skull]

Cornelius I have a problem with you calling the IDFPA a joke. The situation at the moment with records being broken is not sustainable, it is a symptom of the organisation being only a few years old. If people are getting carried away thinking that they are the next Andy Bolton by breaking world records then they need to view it in that context.

The IDFPA is the biggest powerlifting organisation in Ireland. It allows DRUG FREE lifters to compete against each other. I have nothing against people who want to take drugs, I just dont want to compete against them.

I lift with the IDFPA and I dont think I would have the same enthusiasm lifting with any other organisation not just because of the drug free aspect but because our last 3 competitions in Clara, Dublin & Castleblayney could not have been run any better. A brilliant atmosphere on each day & loads of lifters. The standard of lifting is improving each year too with good lifters like your brother wanting to lift with the IDFPA rather than any other organisation.
Cornelius dont be so hard on the IDFPA.

[cornelius parkin]

well, surely once people start going with that fed then the records will be higher? and participation in the sport will increase. If your a new lifter who isnt particularly strong like me, would you want to go to a federation where you could acctually win something or one where you need to be a machine to compete? I think the smaller feds are great stepping stones to larger feds

Well i have a problem with your statement,who cares if your not strong you can still compete in the other feds you shouldnt be winning if your not strong sorry but thats my opinion;) life isnt about finding the easy way around things and winning just because none of the stronger guys are there:rolleyes: i would rather lose every time than win that way.
Stepping stone give me a break thats exactly whats wrong with this sport all these feds just mean people can duck the stronger people and still think they are champions.

Its my opinion not every ones opinion just mine so if you dont like it tough shit:mrgreen:

Skull my brother competes in IDFPA because he is more into body building at the moment and there is no point wearing suits if thats your goal if he got into powerlifting properly i would get him in the GPC straight away.
If you love the IDFPA and thought the comps were well run fair enough i just think different thats all my opinion doesnt matter any way so i dont see any thing wrong in what i said.

[Pork Pie]

I genuinely like the Irish boys on this site, most of all because they can manage to have a good row over almost any thread.

[Matt M]

Pork, your avatar has once again cracked me up, who would think from that picture, that he has fucked probably thousends of good looking women, :p

[Pork Pie]

Ron "The Hedgehog" Jeremy Hyatt - The Prince of Porn.

4,000 women allegedly!

[Carl]

Well i have a problem with your statement,who cares if your not strong you can still compete in the other feds you shouldnt be winning if your not strong sorry but thats my opinion;) life isnt about finding the easy way around things and winning just because none of the stronger guys are there:rolleyes: i would rather lose every time than win that way.
Stepping stone give me a break thats exactly whats wrong with this sport all these feds just mean people can duck the stronger people and still think they are champions.

Its my opinion not every ones opinion just mine so if you dont like it tough shit:mrgreen:

Skull my brother competes in IDFPA because he is more into body building at the moment and there is no point wearing suits if thats your goal if he got into powerlifting properly i would get him in the GPC straight away.
If you love the IDFPA and thought the comps were well run fair enough i just think different thats all my opinion doesnt matter any way so i dont see any thing wrong in what i said.

Think of it as a leauge type system

makes sense no?? how many competitive rugby teams would there be if they all had to play new zealand etc?

i know its not directly comparitive but my point still stands

[cornelius parkin]

Think of it as a leauge type system

makes sense no?? how many competitive rugby teams would there be if they all had to play new zealand etc?

i know its not directly comparitive but my point still stands

well you may think you have a point but i do not:)
but hey i will start a fed pay me 50 quid and i give you a plastic medal and say your champion and hell you can even have a world record if you like;)

[Carl]

its ok aslong as peopls dont start getting silly with it....

[Skull]

Skull my brother competes in IDFPA because he is more into body building at the moment and there is no point wearing suits if thats your goal if he got into powerlifting properly i would get him in the GPC straight away.
If you love the IDFPA and thought the comps were well run fair enough i just think different thats all my opinion doesnt matter any way so i dont see any thing wrong in what i said.

Your entitled to your opinion Cornelius. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[Matt M]

A fed is only as good as it's lifters, if you lift in a fed with lower quality opposition and go around thinking your 'the man', then you are deluded.

One thing I like about powerlifting is numbers are numbers, you can look at each fed and see who has lifted most. It is not a matter of opinion, (apart from if the squat was high etc), its a fact, I like that.

If you lift 200kg in 'X' fed, and see someone has lifted 210kg in 'Y' fed, and the rules, equpment are the same, then you know that guy is stronger, even if you are 'champion' of X fed.

However, I agree, every fed has to start somewhere, but one thing I dont like is feds/sports calling themselves 'drug free', 'drug tested' would be much more accurate, as beating a test is not hard, many do it all the time.

Thats a good idea CP, I think I'll set up the MPC, and be world champion :D

[roderic lexact]

u'd better lift at the bdfpa fed mate....
wdfpf is a good fed with drug tests and u can lift unequipped u wont break records with ur stats right now but maybe later!
next year u'll be in my age/weight classe i'm sure we'll have a lot of fun together...
best reguards from france

[Moz]

Well i have a problem with your statement,who cares if your not strong you can still compete in the other feds you shouldnt be winning if your not strong sorry but thats my opinion;) life isnt about finding the easy way around things and winning just because none of the stronger guys are there:rolleyes: i would rather lose every time than win that way.
Stepping stone give me a break thats exactly whats wrong with this sport all these feds just mean people can duck the stronger people and still think they are champions.

Its my opinion not every ones opinion just mine so if you dont like it tough shit:mrgreen:

Skull my brother competes in IDFPA because he is more into body building at the moment and there is no point wearing suits if thats your goal if he got into powerlifting properly i would get him in the GPC straight away.
If you love the IDFPA and thought the comps were well run fair enough i just think different thats all my opinion doesnt matter any way so i dont see any thing wrong in what i said.

I kinda agree and disagree here. i think there should be 2 feds. IPF for tested lifters and WPO, is that the fed where any thing goes? roids, triple ply bullet stopping suits, half squats and no locking out on the bench (1010 bench seen it?)

i used to lift in bdfpa and you can just turn up and be british champ ( in some weight classes and age groups) for lifting the bar.

[cornelius parkin]

I kinda agree and disagree here. i think there should be 2 feds. IPF for tested lifters and WPO, is that the fed where any thing goes? roids, triple ply bullet stopping suits, half squats and no locking out on the bench (1010 bench seen it?)

i used to lift in bdfpa and you can just turn up and be british champ ( in some weight classes and age groups) for lifting the bar.

Testing is all well and good but at the end of the day it means nothing, there are all ways things you can do to get an edge over other people in this day and age i personally think they should just forget about it....its a part of proffesional sports(all sports)face it it just is.
The problem is once you have two feds you will have people wanting all their little preferences such as two ply but no denim and so on:rolleyes: at the end of the day suits help your lifting so i would just say let every thing be allowed but get the judging super strict(heavy suits wont help you if you cant make depth any way so the modern single ply would still have its place).
As far as the drugs thing ok maybe you wont win with out drugs but at least you wont have your liver falling out your ass or some thing:icon_ton: every one says its a sport to do for your own personal sense of achievement so all these people who complain about losing are hypocrites in my opinion!