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Justin Hurley
02-13-2006, 09:48 AM
I read this and had to copy and paste it over.
It's a response from Jim Wendler concerning training and it just might be the best training advice I've ever read:

First of all, let me state that I am in NO way criticizing you. My post was in NO way an attack at you. Unfortunately, and as Al Pacino said in the movie, Scent of a Woman, I'm just getting started.

The problem that I have with some of the crap that I see being spewed is that it is simply retarded bullshit. End of story. I have spent my goddamn life trying to be stronger than a ****ing ox and hanging out with people and training with people and work with a company that is 100% ****ing dedicated to getting people strong. That is a fact.

Then I hear story after story of these people who are telling people how to get strong and putting out articles on this subject. Well, I call bullshit. I am not going to apologize anymore for being strong. And neither is Dave. I'm putting an end to this right now.

Just because some authors couldn't lift the shit that falls out of their ass doesn't mean they aren't good coaches. But if you really want to know how to get strong; and I'm not talking about bench pressing 315lbs. I'm talking about doing some sick-ass shit, then go seek out the freaks. Sure, they may not know the ins/out of Supertraining or whatever. But if you know what questions to ask, I guarantee they will have 10 times the information than any of these "coaches" do. If I have a question about training on getting strong, I'm asking Donnie, Marc, Chad, Dave, Todd, Lou, Chuck, etc. NOT someone that can barely lift a wiffle-ball bat.

These critics like to use the fact that many of us are genetic freaks (what a crock of shit) or that we are all drugged to the gills. That's their excuse for being able to fit through a chain-link fence. Again, excuses. You want to know what it's like to feel 405 and 3 blue bands/side and how to set up for that? Don't ask the "coaches", ask the guys that know what the hell it's like to feel like your head is going to blow off, even on the warm-up sets.

I have said this a 1000 times; getting strong hasn't changed in the last 100 years.

Lift heavy shit
Eat some food
Recover
Repeat as necessary

More is not better, better is better. Whoever says differently is not better, just looking for a new way to get their name in print.

So to answer your question; the only advice I have for you is DO IT...try it out and see what happens. Even if it sucks, you will at least have something to cross off your list.

The theories being expounded by those "in the know" are full of theory and lack in practical education. Be different; actually do something. Before you know it, you will develop into a real lifter, not someone that sits at his desk like a waif-model.

He closes above his name with
"your education starts in the weightroom, not on the internet."

Good Stuff Mr. Wendler

cuntos
02-13-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah that's spot on.

Justin Hurley
02-13-2006, 11:55 AM
I have said this a 1000 times; getting strong hasn't changed in the last 100 years.

Lift heavy shit
Eat some food
Recover
Repeat as necessary

More is not better, better is better. Whoever says differently is not better, just looking for a new way to get their name in print.


This more or less sums it up.

chris jenkins
02-13-2006, 12:15 PM
bang on, nice post Justin. Hey gayo... my phone's sim is blocked for some reason. Im ringing Vodaphone when I finish at two mate.. Im off this thursday buddy, also the weekend

Justin Hurley
02-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Let's go up Dave's on Thursday then.

chris jenkins
02-13-2006, 12:27 PM
In the gay love bus

Rob Thomas
02-13-2006, 12:54 PM
This article sums up why IMO, this is the best powerlifting forum out there right now - especially for us Brits. You're not getting advice on powerlifting from people who have never competed or even trained as a powerlifter in their lives but you're getting advice from some world class powerlifters that are actually still competing - some at the highest level possible!

Another benefit is that these lifters compete in all the major federations in the UK - be it BWLA, BPC, BPO or BDFPA, a lot of the members of this site are current lifters of a high level in ALL these feds.

Why do people bother posting powerlifting realted "how do I do this? etc" questions on forums full of back slapping wannabies who all lie about the weights they lift??? If you want answers, speak to the people who are doing it NOW or have done it before!

Justin Hurley
02-13-2006, 12:55 PM
We will have to go in your gay hairdresser car.

Matt M
02-13-2006, 02:17 PM
Lift heavy shit
Eat some food
Recover
Repeat as necessary

More is not better, better is better. Whoever says differently is not better, just looking for a new way to get their name in print.

I've lost count of the amount of people who I have told this to over the years, but they generally dont listen, especially if they are a bit bigger or stronger than you.

They tend to listen when you start getting bigger and stronger than them, and still making progress.

Even now, there are people I know who only use 20kg plates, I kid you not, they never, and I mean never put the small 1-2kg disks on to further their lifting. It is madness! They truely expect to go from a 6 plate aside deadlift, to a 7, with nothing inbetween.

Tony Zhang
02-13-2006, 03:15 PM
But if you know what questions to ask, I guarantee they will have 10 times the information than any of these "coaches" do. If I have a question about training on getting strong, I'm asking Donnie, Marc, Chad, Dave, Todd, Lou, Chuck, etc. NOT someone that can barely lift a wiffle-ball bat.


So Louie Simmons and the WSB had so much respect for Mel Siff because he squated 1000 lbs?

Tony Zhang
02-13-2006, 03:16 PM
Sorry to nitpick but that was actually a very good post by Jim Wendler