290+330kg squat (check depth)

[Justin Hurley]

Right, got my predators back today, awesome alterations, they are now super tight and give me great support. Only problem was I blew them out on the 290kg squat, only 1.5-2" on the right leg, so I am going to take them back and make sure they use polyester thread and run a few lines up and down. They must have used cotton, because they blew out quite easily.

Well back to the point. I used the predators instead of my power pants. They were a little worse than wear but done the job, plus I used 2.5M knee wraps this week.
I felt like I made good depth on both the 290kg and 330kg, but the clip shows it to be borderline to me.

Have a look and give me your opinion. Do you think that would get passed??

http://www.powerliftinguk.com/files/290+330kg.wmv

[Phil E]

Watching it in slow motion, the 290kg is very slightly high, and the 300kg is a couple of inches too high. However, they both looked better than some of the videos I've seen of squats that have been passed in some federations.

Edit: not that my opinion means a lot here, seeing as I've got no experience at all!

[tod]

big weights buddie, that 1st 1 is about level isnt it & that 330 cums up strong

[Alex Gold]

1st one is borderline, if you came up fast enough you may get away with it!

Also, you are still letting that suit force you forward.

[AJ Roberts]

Both are boarderline but strong. Just give a little dip when ur in the hole and u should be good to go. Glad to see your sitting back more especially after walking out that bad boy!!

[DEL]

Your looking so much better then you did at the british!! The squat are a bit high but very strong and powerfull. I think using a monolift will save energy and you will hit depth easy. 340-350kg has got too be there soon. Well Done. We will have to sort something out for you and Chris to come down to the gallery for a squat session soon.

[Justin Hurley]

Thanks for the feedback. I know I can make better depth, with just briefs on I can piss depth, but with those bad boy predators and the canvas, it sure does make it hard to break parrallel. I am going keep filming myself until I get the feedback from you all that I'm making good depth.

AJ - when you say dip, what do you mean??

Looking forward to coming down and training with you Del. Do you squat on a Monday???
I'm still working on that masterpice of mine, been up to my eyeballs with the students back, I think it will be very comprehensive when it's finished, I can't wait until you put the finishing touches to it.

[DEL]

I do box squats and deadlifts mondays and Heavy squats on thursdays. What do you think of the predators?

[Rob Thomas]

I think you'll be much better off when you lift that from a monolift mate. Still, it's an awesome weight for your size (or any size really)!

[chris jenkins]

Good effort Justin mate, nice to see your improving. I like constuctive criticism, it only helps us to get better.

I have a feeling Justin is going to do somthing special at the worlds. Ive noticed he's keeping the details of his new deadlift under wraps!!!!

Ive noticed in training that your raw strength is very good, I knew it would only be a matter of time before you would be putting up big numbers. 300kgs squat in briefs for doubles at thirteen stone is strong.

[Justin Hurley]

My ego is at an all time high, thanks for the kind words everyone.

Chris - the deadlift is going to be a surprise. I can only thank you for that, I would have never changed over to sumo if you didn't persuade me. I know feel stronger than ever deadlifting.

I love the predators Del. Mine are fucking super, super tight now that I have had them altered, about 20-25 mins to get on yesterday. I woke last night from the pain from my fingers, as I cut everyone but two, getting them on. Only problem I had is the dickheads used cotton thread and I blew them out on the 290kg. I'm taking them down my mates mother, who can run polyester thread up and down the seam a few times, and use a funky thread pattern to go with the single, so to give more strength in the seam.

[Alex Gold]

You alter your gear at the drop of a hat, I'd be shitting myself if I was squatting with some random sewing holding my stuff together! I was worried enough about taking the straps in in my suit!

I keep reading on manufacturers sites about how they use this stitch and this stitch to reduce chances of blowouts etc etc, do you not worry you're making the seams weaker?

Cheers

[cuntos]

Justin, have you tried putting insulation tape over the ends and distal joint of each finger (basically wherever you end up raw) before donning your suit? I have found that it saves a lot of skin.

[Justin Hurley]

GA - stitching is stitching. Providing it's done properly it shouldn't make any difference. Need to use polyester thread though and not cotton. Plus the thread pattern can make a hell of a difference to the strength of the seam. I am 100% confident that when my mates ma sticthes it, they will be awesome.

Think I'll try that cuntos. Might try using examination gloves aswell. My right hand is well deep, got to do something, can't rip my fingers to bits like this all the time. The rage x material is well rough, this only helps to rip them up.

[cuntos]

I was going to use those gloves, but I thuoght they'd just get shredded instantly, so I went with the tape. The first time I didn't use anything and the entire ends of my fingers blistered and then peeled off (like fingerless gloves). The next day they were scabby and red. It was very painful for a couple of weeks. When I used the tape it was fine and I could still grip the suit enough to get it on, which was pleasantly surprising.

[Phil R]

well just catching up on all i have missed while being away. not bad at all justin, even though the depth is shaky your lifts are going in the right direction
well done mate

[Justin Hurley]

Just got to keep adding wait until I can break past parrallel in those bad boy predators and hybrid.
I'll get there, next week will be 340kg and then we will see if I can break parallel or not.

[Rob Thomas]

I think your biggest problem is going to be walking the mother out, shame there's not a monolift closer to where we live as you'd be sorted with that.

[Justin Hurley]

There is one down in Port Talbot, Mark Jordan's gym.
I think he's a cocksucker and don't want to use his gym. He was nothing but an arkward, nasty twat to me and two others at the BPO British.
I'd rather travel across to Genesis or the Gallery.

I like the fact I'm walking the weight out, when I do use a monolift, the weight is only going to be easier to handle.

[Rob Thomas]

Yes mate, I remember as I was one of the other two you mentioned - I remember you wanted to smack him one!

[Justin Hurley]

Oh yeah, I forgot, it was you and craig wasn't it.

[Alex Gold]

There is a monolift attachment you can add to a normal rack, no idea where to get it from, I'll go get pics....

[Justin Hurley]

If you have enough of you to spot, you can use the pins to make your own monolift, you just need some extra hands to get the pins out or down in time, otherwise the weight will be on your back forever.

[jonnymills]

Hi Justin tried pming you but your inbox is full.

Just been watching your squat videos - very impressive mate.

I have just got a bunch of Bodypower plates like you have to get my own garage gym, and when I weigh them they all come out at 17-18kg (for the 20kg discs). Have you weighed any of yours? This isn't a snipe at you, just wondering if I'm the only one with dodgy plates (or scale) or if others' aren't right too.

Cheers.

[AJ Roberts]

AJ - when you say dip, what do you mean?

Well when you hit the hole and the suit begins to lock up drop a little faster. Personally i can not do this but many canvas user do with great success.

I would say see how the squatting goes next week though before trying to change anything.

[Justin Hurley]

Hi Justin tried pming you but your inbox is full.

Just been watching your squat videos - very impressive mate.

I have just got a bunch of Bodypower plates like you have to get my own garage gym, and when I weigh them they all come out at 17-18kg (for the 20kg discs). Have you weighed any of yours? This isn't a snipe at you, just wondering if I'm the only one with dodgy plates (or scale) or if others' aren't right too.

Cheers.

Just emptied it Jonny.
My 25K plates weigh 25.8kg, my 20k plates weigh 20.4kg and the 15k plates weigh 15.2kg. That is why when I get to comp the weight always seems lighter.

[Justin Hurley]

Well when you hit the hole and the suit begins to lock up drop a little faster. Personally i can not do this but many canvas user do with great success.

I would say see how the squatting goes next week though before trying to change anything.

Not drop forward then, just try and dump more into the hole???

[AJ Roberts]

Backwards. I can not do this as it causes me to loose my balance backwards. Most do not have the problem as usually they fall forwards so the extra push back works

[jonnymills]

Cheers Justin, surely that's a good thing though?

I'll have to try mine on another set of scales, or I'll end up with a massive false confidence.

[Mike Adams]

Backwards. I can not do this as it causes me to loose my balance backwards. Most do not have the problem as usually they fall forwards so the extra push back works

AJ .. sounds like I squat in a similar style to you. I can't lean back to far as lose my balance too .. don't have a problem with being pulled forward. I'd be interested to know if you have straps on your suit tight? I actually like them quite lose so as I go down they don't tighten and hence pull me backwards otherwise I end up over compensating and leaning foward. Do you know of any big lifters who have lose straps? I seem to be the only I know who has this set up.
As long as my suit is tight and supportive from the belt down I feel good. I'm probably not using my suit to the full benefit. I'd be interested in yours or anyone elses thoughts (except help2002 who doesn't appear to have anything constructive to say).

[AJ Roberts]

AJ .. sounds like I squat in a similar style to you. I can't lean back to far as lose my balance too .. don't have a problem with being pulled forward. I'd be interested to know if you have straps on your suit tight? I actually like them quite lose so as I go down they don't tighten and hence pull me backwards otherwise I end up over compensating and leaning foward. Do you know of any big lifters who have lose straps? I seem to be the only I know who has this set up.
As long as my suit is tight and supportive from the belt down I feel good. I'm probably not using my suit to the full benefit. I'd be interested in yours or anyone elses thoughts (except help2002 who doesn't appear to have anything constructive to say).

Lots of big guys leave the straps loose but as you said this results in not getting the most carry over from the canvas. Problem is most struggle to make depth as it is, so tightening the straps really wouldn't help. When i first started using the canvas i did the same thing, but now i can get the straps ultra tight as i am used to the pressure etc plus im handling weights now that make it easier for me to get down.

[Mike Adams]

Lots of big guys leave the straps loose but as you said this results in not getting the most carry over from the canvas. Problem is most struggle to make depth as it is, so tightening the straps really wouldn't help. When i first started using the canvas i did the same thing, but now i can get the straps ultra tight as i am used to the pressure etc plus im handling weights now that make it easier for me to get down.

Cheers AJ. Not handling as much weight as you are but I think after my comp in Germany i'll have to start getting used to tighter straps .. especially if it means being able to move a bit more weight in the end ;0)

[DEL]

I look forward too meeting you in Germany Mike. Good luck with your training.

[Mike Adams]

I look forward too meeting you in Germany Mike. Good luck with your training.

Look forward to meeting you too Del. Be prepared for me picking your brains on how you train for the awesome lifts you do ... especially the squats and deadlift!!!! Any tips will be gratefully received ;0)

[d.george]

Looks a smidge high on both lifts though they both came up easily enough! Impressive all the same though...

[Justin Hurley]

What's your opinion on this squat Darren: http://www.powerliftinguk.com/showthread.php?t=2301, high or not???

[d.george]

The 337.5 looked boarderline, the judge could go either way at a meet. I have only experience of IPF meets though and the judging lately (especially the commonwealth) has been asking for a deeper squat than most are used too, this resulted in a lot of bombing in this discipline. Your strength is flying though, a little bounce at the bottom of the hole would have guaranteed your depth. good squat strength buddy.